How much do I need to spend to get a preamp that sounds better than no preamp?


Hello all.
I'm using an Audible Illusions L1 preamp and I think my system sounds better when I remove it from the signal path. Oppo BD105 directly to SMC Audio DNA1 Gold power amp. I have read that there is level of quality you need to hit before there will be an improvement in sound. I can't seem to find what that level is. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Ben
honashagen
Tweak: sounds like a worthwhile experiment. 

Questions might be, is there a difference having the extra jacks and cables? Is the volume attenuation by the new per better than the digital of the Oppo? 

Is the Hatton buffered or is it just pure switching?
all good questions to be investigated

No buffer on this one, but they do make them
honashagen OP
If so just put a bunch of your favourite preamps in series and the sound would just keep getting better!

Yeah that would open the eye’s (ears), should just keep getting better and better until nirvana’s has been reached.
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tweak1536 posts05-28-2018 5:04amI just closed a deal for a Hatton passive XLR, so will see whether it improves on no preamp. If no glitches, I should have it by friday

Can we know what your sources impedance and output voltage is and the power amps input impedance and sensitivity is, so there are no question raised?
As you’ve posted in other posts that you have a tube/capacitor coupled output Raysonic source, which would not be very low output impedance especially in the bass, for your experiment to be conclusive in it’s outcome.
Also do you have a link to this Hatton xlr pre, all I can find is stuff to do with bands/studio ect.  

Cheers George
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Can we really expect a simple pre amp to improve on the mastering engineers ear and gear? If so just put a bunch of your favorite preamps in series and the sound would just keep getting better!
Improve on it no- maintain neutrality yes.

If you were instead to put a bunch of your favorite passive volume controls in series, the result would not be pretty. Nor would putting a bunch of active preamps in series. The idea in high end audio is to do the least damage to the signal while getting it from the source to the speakers.

The simple fact is that a passive is too simple to do the job. The reasons why have been explained several times in this thread.