Beware the audio guru

@rodman99999

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Thanks. I admit I read your post pretty fast, saw the "sounds familiar" and just assumed you were referencing something else. I didn’t see your follow up post.

Nonetheless I presume in either case your quoting it meant you agreed with the quote. (A reasonable assumption...?)

Feynman was, of course, awesome. An incredibly sharp intellect and a great teacher. But even the sharpest intellects can go fuzzy outside their field, especially on religion, as I think Feynman does here (having read the expanded version). He identifies the conflicts I alluded to, but then goes a bit non-committal and mushy on whether the conflicts can be removed, even suggesting at some points they can be.

I would argue that’s wrong - there’s going to be a conflict. Certainly in the case of the classic revealed religions and accepting science and the scientific method. And Feynman was trying to keep the God Of Religions in view in his argument. As for deistic arguments with more modest scope, some of those involve teleological arguments that conflict with science, others are metaphysical/ontological arguments that are at least supposed to be "outside science" but even some of those teeter on the edge. Metaphysical/ontological arguments are fun to discuss too. (I’m a bit of a philosophy geek, no expert but I enjoy this stuff - I get all geeked when the subjects turn to ethics, free will, science, religion, epistemology etc. So your post caught my eye. It looks like you have an interest too).

But...this ain’t the place. Too bad there’s no "lounge" around here. :-)

Cheerio!

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Back to audio...

@supertweak - perhaps share this pearl of wisdom with your MENSA compatriots:  When you find yourself in a hole (especially one of your own making), the first order of business is to *stop digging*.  Acting the part of a petulant child hardly helps your position. 

@prof- As I mentioned before(while venting), " Whatever piques my interest: I’ll watch, listen, taste, touch, or smell it for myself, thank you." It seems, I’m not alone and find myself in good company(on and off, over the centuries). ie: https://withalliamgod.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/max-planck-on-god/ (albeit, only a list of, "Christian" scientists AND- not that I particularly agree with their individual theologies): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology It’s harder to tell, what(exactly) the many Jewish scientists(especially the plethora of physicists), have actually believed. I Do know it’s VERY hard, to separate a Jew, from their religion(.2% of the world’s population/22.5% of awarded Nobels- DISPORPORTIONATE?). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_scientists Thankfully, The Manhattan Project had a few AND(very possibly), Heisenberg sabotaged the Nazi’s atomic aspirations. Indeed: too bad there’s no lounge.

BTW: The topic of religion was introduced on the very first page, ninth response(and- popped up on others), so- non est mea culpa(OK, so I fed into it....shoot me)! No more from me in this thread(regarding religion), SO- save the flames and back to audio, "GURUS".

I’m not sure I get why religion is mentioned in the same sentence, breath or thread with audio, even with outrageous or preposterous audiophile tweaks. Because there’s no proof for religious beliefs. Oh, I suppose you could say there is evidence for God but even that’s a stretch. But for audio it’s a different story since there is empirical proof or evidence regarding every single one of things that give skeptics ❤️ 🔥. From Mpingo discs to directionality of wire to contact enhancers to Green Pen to things that go bump in the night like, you know, Silver 🌈 Foil and Message labels. The really disturbing stuff. 😩