glupson
Yes your points are well taken.
I did find the mini-biography MG gave us certainly did go quite a way to explaining the character of his posts and belief system.
It’s weird interacting with the Tuners here; no alternative views seem to get "in" from the outside, it’s mostly blithely ignored, we only see things coming outward. Especially from you know who ^^^^^. If you aren’t going to just take what they are out to evangelize, well skeptics aren’t much good to them because they aren’t interested in defending their claims so much as gaining converts. So skepticism is cast as negativity, and off they go looking for whoever will eat the stuff up and say "more."
I’ve had a long fascination with cults, fringe belief systems etc, and the similarities are quite remarkable to some of the behaviour I’ve seen in this thread. That of course is *not* to say Tuneland is a cult, but rather that some Tuners here seem to give off a similar vibe because there seem to be some shared characteristics. It’s sort of like the Jehovah’s Witnesses who come to your door to proselytize. They will happily engage you for hours if you seem open to their evangelizing. But if challenged, they will quickly say: "We see your viewpoint, thank you for taking the time to speak with us" and on to the next house. They are taught to not engage other critical views at length - both because it cuts down on proselytizing time, and because it can lead to doubts. People who operate in these protective bubbles tend to come off as a bit odd when they leave the bubble and try to interact with alternative viewpoints.
BTW, I’ve said numerous times before I don’t go around "being scientific" in everything I do. Far from it. I buy things that tickle my fancy - which no doubt involves a healthy dose of my own biases - like anyone else. (I just try to be cautious in what conclusions I reach and what claims I’d make to other people).
Yes your points are well taken.
I did find the mini-biography MG gave us certainly did go quite a way to explaining the character of his posts and belief system.
It’s weird interacting with the Tuners here; no alternative views seem to get "in" from the outside, it’s mostly blithely ignored, we only see things coming outward. Especially from you know who ^^^^^. If you aren’t going to just take what they are out to evangelize, well skeptics aren’t much good to them because they aren’t interested in defending their claims so much as gaining converts. So skepticism is cast as negativity, and off they go looking for whoever will eat the stuff up and say "more."
I’ve had a long fascination with cults, fringe belief systems etc, and the similarities are quite remarkable to some of the behaviour I’ve seen in this thread. That of course is *not* to say Tuneland is a cult, but rather that some Tuners here seem to give off a similar vibe because there seem to be some shared characteristics. It’s sort of like the Jehovah’s Witnesses who come to your door to proselytize. They will happily engage you for hours if you seem open to their evangelizing. But if challenged, they will quickly say: "We see your viewpoint, thank you for taking the time to speak with us" and on to the next house. They are taught to not engage other critical views at length - both because it cuts down on proselytizing time, and because it can lead to doubts. People who operate in these protective bubbles tend to come off as a bit odd when they leave the bubble and try to interact with alternative viewpoints.
BTW, I’ve said numerous times before I don’t go around "being scientific" in everything I do. Far from it. I buy things that tickle my fancy - which no doubt involves a healthy dose of my own biases - like anyone else. (I just try to be cautious in what conclusions I reach and what claims I’d make to other people).