Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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Michael or jf47t,   Please describe the mods made to the Pioneer receiver and post pictures of it somewhere we can access them.  That would be walking.  What you are doing now is talking.
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@geofkait,

Thanks for pointing out my mistake as I generally make a few more with age setting in.

You of all people questioning engineering? Beep Beep - is that the sound of too much amg56 “traffic” in your head or has MG finally won you over with his compliments and praise?

I (we) are not desperate whatsoever. The On Stage Studio™ product is about to come online and will be open for auditions but it never hurts to learn why others apply different techniques that are totally uncommon.

We want to know why chassis lids, and cable connectors and barrels come off and what effect this has over the norm other than safety issues. We have our opinions of course but would like to hear the technical side from the OP walker or his assistant, the talker.

Heck, I’m trying to figure out how to keep a post alive on this thread. It’s obvious that you and me have thicker skin and do not complain to the moderators or have posts silenced, so I'm thinking you too should cut me some slack GacK.