@glupson, with every nonsensical post, jf47t/MG/cult leader is doing more to damage any credibility that the Tuneland forum may have had here than any other poster. His constant "I know you are, but what am I?" and "..."troll, troll, TROLL!" schtick got old pages ago. But, I have to say, it is quite entertaining to read his responses every time you and prof give him a beatdown....
Talk but not walk?
Hi Guys
This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?
I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?
You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?
I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?
thanks, be polite
Michael Green
www.michaelgreenaudio.net
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glupson geoffkait: “Kind of the George Bushes of the audio world,..." Planck, Einstein, Kim Jong Un, and now we have a newcomer on this thread. How do I seriously show this to anyone and claim it is a thread on an audio reproduction forum? >>>>You have a very limited view of audio forums in particular and the internet in general, or so it would appear. Of course, you could be faking. If you are faking you’re doing an excellent job! |
glupson geoffkait, >>>>>Keep a log. Solar flare and sunspot activity is undated daily on: https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity Despite our differences, I am glad that you found the link I provided for you helpful. However, I thought it gets updated daily. >>>>Huh? I’ve been providing the link to spaceweather.com here for at least 15 years. Your log’s pages are empty, Mr. Clean Slate. |
"For the on-lookers..." To those who have visited the Tuneland forum, especially the Tuneland thread devoted to this Agon thread, have you noticed something kind of odd? Something...missing? Is there ANYONE we've seen more enthusiastic about Michael Green, and more involved with that MG is doing and thinking 24/7 than his fervent devotee jf47t? It was jf47t who has mostly taken over from MG here and who posted the links to the Tuneland thread about this thread, and has constantly updated and reminded us about that Tuneland thread. And yet, jf47t doesn't seem to appear anywhere as a participant on that Tuneland thread (or, as far as I can see, anywhere in that Tuneland forum subsection). Isn't it....odd...that MG's interest level in this thread remained so high as to create his own ongoing Tuneland thread monitoring this one, and to have jf47t continually show up to interact here and point to that Tuneland thread as it updates, and yet when you leave Audiogon and go to that Tuneland thread, "jf47t" seems nowhere to be found and it's only MG posting? (With a couple comments from one other participant who doesn't seem to be jf47t)? Maybe it's worth asking: jf47t, given it seems you post so often in this thread, and seem just as enthusiastic as Michael about discussing the "trollish" behavior here, and clearly continually visit the Tuneland thread you keep linking to: why do you show apparently zero interest in participating in the Tuneland thread? Couldn't Tuneland use more participation from folks like yourself? |
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