Has anyone compared the Nola Viper IIa's..

I've heard them on the same day in a dealers rooms. I found the Viper IIa's to be competent but not spectacular. They were in the "ok, that's nice but lets move on" category. I agree with you about the Reference, they were wonderful to my ears, everything I find desirable in a speaker. They were on a much higher plane of musical accuracy in every respect. As one who likes well integrated, musical speakers that avoid analytical dissected type reproduction, I found the them near ideal. The dealers rooms weren't ideal, so that may have been a factor. If I'd had the more than $10k, I'd have taken them home.

Your response is quite helpful. I'm a little disappointed with Nola (Alon). Their newer products don't seem to capture the same magic of the music as the older products (Alon I's, II's, IV's and V's), unless you go up much higher in the range with the corresponding cost. Its a shame because I've long been a fan. The old products just had so much more value.

Again, thanks for your thoughts. Looks like I may have to consider a used pair of the Viper references. My other choice of speaker are the Focal 1027be's. I'll need to do some A&B auditioning if I can find a shop which carries both speakers.

You're right, I wouldn't say that the Nola Vipers were a high value product. I've heard any number of speakers at or below their price point that sounded better to my ears. A good pair of References at used prices, that's a different story.

I'm thinking about setting up an audition with a dealer to hear NOLA Viper IIA, but after reading the above, would it be a waste of time? Are the $12,000 Viper Refs, allot better and worth it? I guess by todays prices, 12K might be inline, if the sound is first rate. I own SoundLabs, but don't have that kind of $$$$ anymore, will NOLA be a waste of time to bother with?

I wonder what amps you guys listened with? I bet it was solid state.Probably something like PASS or something. I think NOLA uses ARC as thier house brand ? At least a photo on their web shows ARC amps with the ultra HE speakers. I have read these are great speakers for SETs too, can anyone verify? Welborne Labs lists these as something to check out with SETs.

I'm an interested in a speaker that is under $10,000 USD, but yet won't dissapoint me like almost every speaker I have listen to in the past few years. I don't want to spend 10K on something that should be 2K, or something I could just build myself. I wish Photon46 would give a list of speakers he finds better. The Viper IIA look better built than most in this range, but I have not seen them in person, At least they don't look like a carbon copy of the dozens of mass produced brands.

6550c, as I recall, the Nola Vipers I heard were paired with Cary equipment. Both amp & preamp were tubed. It's been too long to remember the models, although I think the preamp was the slp98. As to "speakers I think are better." what's the point? I freely admit that I've not heard enough good speakers in good rooms to make any claims to being a good guide to the myriad of products out there. At the time, I'd been looking for a speaker to replace my Magneplanar 1.6 and I was visiting those audio dealers who had products of interest to me. As I recall, I was listening to various Von Schweikert, Gallo, Usher, and Nola speaker systems. Just so you know my preferences and prejudices, I have no interest in audio reproduction that tends towards audiophile hyped up detail or tonal exaggeration. I suppose the primary thing that I like is a sense of musical palpability for lack of better term. The sense of real instruments vibrating in a definable space. The Nola Vipers, in that room with that equipment, as well as every other speaker I heard that day(except for the Nola References) failed that test for me. The system I'm listening to now has that ability to give a musically palpable impression in spades, so I've not done too much further auditioning since. BTW, I did go back and listen again to these speakers and the same impressions persisted. All this said, it's obvious from reviews that some listeners had a different impression of the Vipers and that's too be expected. It just takes some luck and work too get the right equipment synergy with every speaker it seems. FWIW, Reference Vipers pop up now and then for 6-7k on this site.