Integrated Amp to match with Magico A3


Have just ordered a pair of Magico A3, and looking for integrated amplifier to pair with it. As I heard once which had a very disappointing result to pair with Gryphon 300 in a local Hifi show in Hong Kong. Reallly looking for recommendations on matching amplifier. Planned to get a Marantz PM-10, but worried that the single box may not be powerful enough to push the A3. On the other side, some said Hegel H360 with 4000+ damping factor may suit even better.

thank you in advance
eldonfung
Hegel H590 is coming out in a few months and it is Hegel's version of a super integrated. Take a look at the video located on the bottom of the following linked page.

https://darko.audio/2018/05/statement-made-hegel-debut-h590-with-kef-blade/

Alon Wolf was also raving about the Hegel (old model) on the Soundstage.com interview.
Hegal tries to eliminate crossover distortion which all Class AB amps do. You can try different methods, but still impossible to eliminate. Any Audiophile should no the only way to eliminate it 100%, is using true Class A design, not AB. Crossover distortion is when the audio sinewave switches from one half waveform to next half. Yes Audiophiles, this is audible. Once again, only Class A dosnt have crossover distortion because it always running full power. This is one of reasons Class A sounds best. Virtually all Ultra High End Audiophiles use Class A amps. Now a days Class A amps are much more efficient, and radiate less heat. If you want best possible sound, Class A in solid state or tubes. Also, the rest of amp has to be there ( Gryphon- Vitus )
Hegal is only mentioned because cost combatabity with Magic A3's. 
($5700 with $9800). Oviously if you can afford a better amp, you'll get better results. I doubt 99.9% of people on this forum no more than myself in Elecronics. Read and learn.
Next time you see Alon Wolf, ask him if Hegal is better than Class A amps such as Pass Labs, Gryphon or Vitus. Better more, bring your light weight Hegal to any of the above dealers and compare. There isn't any comparison. 
I used Class AB amps for 20 years, because cheaper than Class A. I learned my lesson. All my friends that hear my stereo are blown away. Forget AB
Sinewaveron, we both agree and disagree, we were former Hegel dealers and their products were excellent.

Whether an amp is class A or Class A/B is just one of the factors in determining sound quality, amounts of feedback, feed forward, type of feedback, circuit design, circuit implimentation and parts selection, and circuit voicing is just as important.

When we had the Hegel line we also had the Luxman line and we did prefer the 20 watt Class A Luxman, but we sold more Unision Research Unico 50 which were a class A/B solid state amp with a tube preamp stage then both of thoese products.

As per Pass, Gryphon or Vitus being better that may be much more to do with the design and implimentation of the product

By the way we also sell T+A gear which is class A/B there have been a few people here who had Pass gear which was outperformed by the T+A and T+A is also in the uber class of high end and their products are consistantly rated among the best of the best.

The point is you must evaluate a product for the way it sounds and not just its technology or class of operation.

Hegel’s designs are fast, open, clean with good dynamics, and excellent bass control, as per Alon Wolf raving about the Hegel H360, why wouldn’t he it would give many of his speakers a tighter bass and the amp is less expensive to allow for more expensive Magico speaker pairings.

Personally I would think the combo would not be that good, as the Magico line tends to be a bit on the more reservered, cleaner with less midrange bloom which is how the Hegel sounds, we would most likely use a warmer richer puncher amplifier to bring out a bit more midrange magic and liquidity to the Magicos which is how we like to voice our systems.

As per Vitus being great stuff that is not in debate and your $25k Vitus should squash a $5k Hegel. Whether of not their new super integrated is that good will all depend on how Hegel has implimented the design and of course how it sounds, to make such statements that because a Hegel is a class A/B product and therefore not as good as a Vitus shows you have an inate bias and are not open to what we all must do in audio which is to go out and listen and then do exact comparisons on the same equipment.

Hegel’s new super integrated might be fantastic or only a bit better than their previous offerings.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ


Sinewaveron,

Thank you for you’re reply and asking me what I think. In the spirit in which your gracious post was written, here are my thoughts per your request:

I think your aggressive response to a first time poster trying to be helpful and answer an open call for opinions uncalled for and suspicious.

I think that for someone who likes to talk about distortion - it is really bizarre for you to then recommend pairing a 25k amp with 9.8k speakers. I say this because speakers produce by far more distortion (like hundreds of times more) than all other components combined in a modern audio system and most people who know this allocate their budgets differently.

I think you have spent so much time evangelizing your amp (for whatever reason) that you’ve completely lost sight of the big picture.

I think this is a hobby and I’ll never understand why people like you try to take the fun out of it for everyone else.

Hope this is what you were looking for and thanks for reading.