New TEO Audio ICs, who has them?


TEO has been busy, they recently introduced the KRONOS ICs:

https://www.dagogo.com/audio-blast-three-new-cables-two-cable-makers/

I see they also have an upgraded version of the Game Changer (GC II):

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis8e6gg-teo-audio-gcii-1m-different-physics-math-different-result...


tommylion
@jayctoy 

And the other folks having wild fun with the Schroeder Method.

If I can interject with a few words of caution. The basic concept behind the Schroeder Method opens up the potential for some quite amazing improvements in interconnect performance ( the Bob Smith comment that celander referenced up-thread does a very good job explaining how/why the performance improvements ). And while this is quite exciting we have to keep in mind a few things. First this is a new application which has not been thoroughly explored, and as an example we have seen ( and heard from clients about ) issues with mis-matched cables. These issues include oscillations/feed-back loops that could prove harmful to equipment and the fact that careful matching of cables produces the best sonic results ( and here we are referring to both cable type and length ). 

So by all means dive into this, but with whatever combination you are experimenting with please start in a relatively safe part of your system ( up-stream from your pre-amp as opposed to down-stream from your pre-amp ).  
Taras22 , I agree, we have to implement it with caution, I do have both Teo ic connected from my DAC to preamp, to be safe....
I have positive results to report here as my good friend Bon ( @jayctoy ) and others have already reported with this shotgun IC tweak .....Bottom line, the tweak will stay in my system!

I first tried the tweak with dual GCs, and the results were decent and acceptable, but later I tried shotgunning with an Ultra and a GC, and the results were stunningly better, IMO.

I didn't notice a huge improvement in the air or holographic nature of my soundstage (which was good to begin with), but it did come forward a few feet from my speakers towards me, so I guess that’s a little bit of soundstage extension.  The biggest impacts in my system:  generally better “detail” across the board (no, my system did NOT become brighter or edgier, but actually appeared a little “meatier”), with an edge going to bass reproduction (tighter, quicker, more fleshed out and tactile) and an overall better “presence” to vocals and instruments. In fact my system sounds a little “faster” now, and the transient response and dynamics really improved a bit in this shotgun configuration. Lastly, the system sounds (I’m only saying “sounds” because the volume knob on my preamp is more or less in the same position as pre-shotgun) more “powerful” with my measly 8wpc 300b-based mono blocks.  

After the 9 hour or so session this weekend with the shotgunned Teo cables, I really tried hard to detect if there were any adverse effects / negatives from using the ICs (from my DAC to my preamp) in this way.... I only came up with one.... cost. I really heard / found no sonic deficiencies as compared to my system without shotgunning ICs. I think I was expecting maybe a slight loss in focus, but nope. Imaging is still great.

I did find myself playing tunes quite a bit louder than I normally do on some cuts... a testament to an apparently lower distortion and a blacker presentation afforded by the shotgun IC tweak.

Thanks to Doug Schroeder and Taras for bringing this forth. Well done gents!
I am gratified by the people who are willing to give an ear and try this, albeit watching out for the cautionary comments about the experimental nature of the Schroeder Method at this stage. 

I summoned the nerve to put up a few thousand dollars worth of gear to test it out with XLR. It works, and works stunningly! I was concerned about the potential of signals being crossed by the pin configuration of a Y adapter/cable being opposite of the norm. I used a multimeter to test for continuity to ensure the signal was not crossing when going from Y splitter to two XLR interconnects, then back together via a reverse Y cable. It's not the easiest thing in the world to flip the on switches of gear on an experimental rig that you worry could cause one or more components to fail. 

The results were as good, perhaps even more astounding with XLR. But, that cannot be said in any way definitively, as this was a different set of electronics and cables. At this point it shows that it's not only good for RCA; it may be a universal improvement. IMHO, this is no small event, but a watershed moment in system configuration. Unless I encounter some failure of a component due to the use of the Schroeder Method, I can't go back to single interconnects. It's just too paltry, too impoverished sounding. 

I would like to clarify; I do not consider this a tweak. This is way too powerful, repeatable and in the signal path to be considered a tweak, imo. I see most tweaks as insipid methods, almost inversely insignificant in comparison to the Schroeder Method. I don't believe I am exaggerating - Having put up hundreds of rigs at MSRP up to $100K - to say that this easily has the sonic value of a $25K  improvement of components in a rig, and some cases more. I have made dozens of discrete rigs with the Kingsound King III electrostatic speakers and never, ever have they performed as they are today. 

The power structure of the system using the Schroeder Method is astonishing. The low end is dramatically improved. I do not see a downside to this in terms of sound. I'm guessing that a small contingent of people who want mushier, more recessed, less distinct sound will object. So be it; have the music your way by using a single IC. Not me; I don't think I'm ever going back. 

I hope this sparks a new wave of sound quality in the industry and community. I think this has potential to open a lot of minds that have been closed, and to advance the average guy's rig several levels without decimating the sales of the upper echelon equipment. This has been one of the most amazing months for me as an audiophile. The level of change possible now has brought me closer to realization of my conceptualization of how an audio system should sound than ever before. I am elated that it seems to work with both RCA and XLR; I had no strong reason to doubt that it wouldn't. 

Again, please exercise whatever caution and care you need, and if you are in doubt, please discuss with your manufacturer! This is a do at YOUR own risk activity, as I have said several times. My guess is there are people looking at this and scratching their heads, and word will get around. I don't think this is a small deal. Example; the rig I put together to test this is under $10K MSRP and it trashed every other rig regardless of cost that I've used with the King III. (Of course, what might have been the case had those rigs used the Schroeder Method?) 

Naysayers, mockers... please, don't even bother. I have zero desire to argue with you about this. I have learned to pay little attention to you over the years, thank God! I never would have done such interesting and efficacious work if I had listened to the hecklers. 
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