Have Passive Preamps Finally Come of Age?


Back in the late 90s (eons ago) I tried a variety of passive preamps (PPs). The most musical was an autoformer, but back then my system was not balanced. For the last decade I have been using active preamps, both tube and solid state, but finding a quality balanced preamp under $4K is damn near impossible. Enter the Parasound P5 (2.1), which in addition to having balanced I/Os, it has a separate bass management circuit (MSRP $1095), and I was hoping it would provide better control over the built in class D plates incorporated into my 2 SVS powered subs, whose volume controls are STUPIDLY sensitive: when barely cracked from zero they overwhelm. Alas, no bueno. 

Recently i watched a PS Audio YT video that was emphatic about NOT connecting powered subs with interconnects; instead he recommends speaker cables piggybacked off the main systems amp/s. I had a spare set of DIY flat copper cables, and was shocked how much better they sounded, but doing so did not change the  volume control problem and unfortunately this id not bypass the SVS amps whose class D chips are now ancient. Thinking there could be an impedance problem led me to revisit PPs.

I sold my P5 and was using the XLR outs from my Oppo 105 (upgraded power supply and IEC/wiring to the power supply) direct to my Emerald Physics 100.2SEs (class D). The noise floor dropped tremendously, allowing me a much better view into the music. My Core Power Technologies 1800 PLC had more than a little to do with this, but...  

Days of PP research later, I came across LDRs, which seem like the ultimate PP option, but XLR versions are ~ $2K and up, with the Tortuga coming in at $2700, seems like a true SOTA bargain, just not in my current budget. Scouring the' for sale' sites I came across a Hattor XLR (MSRP $995) which was in my price range. Hattor's www had links to 2 reviews both were extremely positive: one used it in combination with a class D amp. Bingo! I snapped it up.

It arrived late yesterday, although Hattor's www pictures look awesome, they do not compare to seeing and touching it. The metal carrying case was an indication of the designer's dedication. This is an etremely well made piece of kit, but how does it sound? Alas it came with no manual and Hattor's site does not have a PDF. How hard can it be to hook up? Well, after a couple scary minutes, I discovered that it would not light up until I connected the 105. 

Stone cold, the first thing that shocked me was a further reduction in noise floor and an incredibly wide and deep sound stage, but as can be expected, it was dry. Fingers crossed, in about a half hour I began to be rewarded with texture as well. Tis only got better as the night wore on

I hope somebody chimes in with their Tortuga experience, or any other high quality PP information.that goes under the reporting radar. 
tweak1
If a listener likes the sound of a certain type of passive in their system, then that’s what matters. If they want to compare their passive with an active circuit, then they can simply connect a buffer to the passive and decide which sounds better. There are many on this site who enjoy the sound of their passive volume controls and many others who prefer their active preamps or buffers.
All this is so true, and I’m sure tweak1 is glad we are back on topic.

" Have Passive Preamps Finally Come of Age? "
I believe so and some, but like the active preamp, it also is going to become a dinosaur, as all the volume control duties are best done at the source so long as "bit stripping" is held in check maybe with a loudest level gain preset like Wadia and ML did, also with output stage buffers that are as good or better than most active preamps it going to be a win win, also noise floor is as low as it can get with direct source to amp connection, and only one set of interconnects.

Cheers George
Hello A’gon members. I have had my Luminous Audio Axiom, Walker Mod, 3 in, 2 out, single ended remote unit for quite a while now. Without slighting the preamp manufacturers, nor those readers who might own the preamps I have been using ( I will not name them , I will say, without a doubt, that I am much happier, without the preamps in my system. I have tried passives before, but never thought they " came of age ". Maybe it is my amp’s high gain, or my efficient speakers, but it has all come together. I suppose I am one of the few lucky ones, as I am rediscovering recordings that I thought I knew so well. Lets all just get along. Enjoy ! MrD.
I will say, without a doubt, that I am much happier, without the preamps in my system. I have tried passives before, but never thought they " came of age " but it has all come together. I suppose I am one of the few lucky ones

I don’t think Mr D that it’s a matter of passives coming of age as they are still basically what they used to be.

More likely to me, that today’s sources have stronger output stages just as good as preamps in many cases, are dc coupled, have lower output impedances, as well as having twice (even more) the output voltage needed to fully drive poweramps to their full rated wattage output.

So who needs more gain/noise and added electronics in the signal path from active preamps.

Cheers George
well, wll, well... it appears we've just had a magnetic pole shift...

Tortuga just introduced an active preamp
Tortuga is covering their tech with an obvious extension to include a buffer stage. Looks like nice technology and product packaging; I see why you like the product. I’m sure the balanced version of the active preamp will come out soon thereafter.