chinese counterfeitng


I own dartzeel amp and preamp. I was checking out pricing and noticed dartzeel amp selling for $650 on ebay. I checked into this and they make it look externally the same but obviously not internally. The sellers were mainly from China.  If they can make the amp look real I bet is would be an easy process to fake a cable or anything else for that matter


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There are fakes and there are clones. The best clones can be very good however they do not have the same level of transistor matching that the high end products have and usually cut corners with inferior capacitors and other passive parts. The circuit boards for the Dart seem to be exact copies but the above mentioned issues still are there. Some Chinese clones have very good transistor matching though. Another issue is fake transistors and in the DZ clones they are probably fake.

Unless you are a diy guy and plan to correct these things you will not get the same level of performance although it can be very good. I have a pair  Telos clones from Kinki Studios that is incredible with teflon circuit boards, matched fets and all the good stuff but it was not a cheap clone by any means. Aside from the power it is much more realistic and involving  than my ML #333.
Having traveled to China many times relative to manufacturing, you do need the stay on top of quality more so than in Korea and other countries. It is somewhat country specific as you don’t make quality product overnight. It took Japan many years to reach their high level of quality! I would put most Korean branded products well ahead of Chinese products. Given time, China will no doubt reach the quality level of South Korea as their population become more educated. Yes, there are quality products coming out of China but the question centered on fake products.
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I can name manufacturers whose products are not Chinese. Schiit Audio only uses Chinese Wall Worts, everything else is bespoke by Americans in California.
High Fidelity Cables in Texas hand-makes each unit.
As for Chinese products, a friend of mine is in the industry.
He has toured Chinese manufacturing for the line of Plasma TVs he was importing. He said the facility was very modern and used robotic equipment, and probably did a better job than an American factory. That was 20 years ago.
Folks, we live in a global economy and China is a producer, whilst we are consumers.
When I was growing up (born only 12 years after WWII), the punchline to any joke about quality manufacturing was "Made in Japan".
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