Classical Music for Aficionados


I would like to start a thread, similar to Orpheus’ jazz site, for lovers of classical music.
I will list some of my favorite recordings, CDs as well as LP’s. While good sound is not a prime requisite, it will be a consideration.
  Classical music lovers please feel free to add to my lists.
Discussion of musical and recording issues will be welcome.

I’ll start with a list of CDs.  Records to follow in a later post.

Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique.  Chesky  — Royal Phil. Orch.  Freccia, conductor.
Mahler:  Des Knaben Wunderhorn.  Vanguard Classics — Vienna Festival Orch. Prohaska, conductor.
Prokofiev:  Scythian Suite et. al.  DG  — Chicago Symphony  Abbado, conductor.
Brahms: Symphony #1.  Chesky — London Symph. Orch.  Horenstein, conductor.
Stravinsky: L’Histoire du Soldat. HDTT — Ars Nova.  Mandell, conductor.
Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances. Analogue Productions. — Dallas Symph Orch. Johanos, cond.
Respighi: Roman Festivals et. al. Chesky — Royal Phil. Orch. Freccia, conductor.

All of the above happen to be great sounding recordings, but, as I said, sonics is not a prerequisite.


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Craig, what you have heard about Brahms is true, as far as being the last of the major composers to use natural horns in his works. What Brahms did in his symphonies, for instance, was (generally) to use one pair of natural horns (Horns I and II), and one pair of valved horns (III and IV). So he did take advantage of the newer instruments; however he and many others at the time felt that the valved horns were inferior to the natural horns in tone quality. This could perhaps have been true, at first, but it was not a universal opinion at the time. Brahms had very conservative musical tastes. He was a horn player himself, you know. He even wrote an etude book for the instrument! It's quite good, though not much in use today. I would guess most horn players don't even know it exists, let alone have a copy. 

Wagner's first use of the new instruments was fascinating, in Lohengrin. At first, he did not quite understand the concept, and assumed that the purpose was to essentially have several natural horns on the same instrument - in other words, that it would still be played as a hand horn, just with the ability to change the key of it at will.  The result of this misunderstanding was that he changed the key of the instrument sometimes after only a bar and a half!  So one has to be alert when playing, for instance, the oft-played Prelude to the Third Act, as the transposition changes come thick and fast - it gives students a great deal of trouble at first.

As far as recordings go, I know that John Eliot Gardiner has a good recording of the Brahms Requiem. I do not know if there are any period instrument recordings of the symphonies - I don't think Gardiner has recorded those. Being still very active, I don't really have time to keep up with everything going on in the recording world anymore.  I am very familiar with what was recorded up to say the mid-90s, but not nearly so much since then, when I won my position in a full-time symphony. Many others on this board would be much more familiar than I with who has recorded what in the last twenty years or so. I'm pretty sure there were no period instrument recordings of the Brahms symphonies before the mid-90s, but someone may have done it since.  

schubert - I do not remember where you live, if you have ever said. Assuming you are in or close to a major metropolitan area, you would be much more likely to catch a performance of a woodwind quintet at your local universities/conservatories. Also, see if there are any chamber music series in your area that have winds on them. Often, symphonic musicians in major orchestras will have a series set up to give them an outlet for chamber music, which they control, unrelated to their orchestra. Perhaps the performances are located in a local church. It is in this way that I have played most of the major wind quintet works professionally, as well as the Beethoven Septet and the Schubert Octet, and many other major chamber works.  You might see if you can find such a series in your area.  
And your last paragraph is wisdom itself , learsfool .
I operated like that for many decades , have heard Schubert Octet many times , no doubt my own fault for not hearing Op43 .
I live in Twin Cities , did live in Berlin for over 20 .The two metros have almost exactly the same population and area .
Believe it or not, there is, excluding opera, more quality classical music
here than in Berlin. Perhaps more choir music here than anywhere in the world .
And there are several halls with acoustics better than anywhere in Berlin .But , in my dotage I’m lucky to make 3 concerts a month , down from 3 a week for decades .


I don’t say all this as a homer either , St.Paul is a place I live , Berlin is a place I love, and, were it possible, where I would live .
P.S. I’m with Brahms .
Hi schubert - yes, there is an abundance of great choral music in the Twin Cities. And you also have the Mask of the Flower Prince blogger - one of the best in support of symphonic musicians everywhere (I do know his real name).  

Not sure what you mean by your "I'm with Brahms" postscript?? Meaning you are anti-Wagner? I know we have had that conversation in the past. 
To me Brahms, as a person , is the most interesting of all the great composers , I have read most of what has been written about him in English and some in German.He felt music was going the wrong way and when I read his reasons why , I agreed .

I believe we all look at things from our situation in life, a musician like yourself sees one thing , an historian like myself sees something else.Small poor example, first time I read of teen-age Brahms playing in cafes on Album notes
I knew at once that their were no cafes in Hamburg dock side area, at that time the biggest harbor in the world .What there was were a plethora of low-down brothels as nasty as there were on the planet .No wonder Clara Schumann , misogamy etc.I’m anti-Wagner because the most famous man In Germany wrote more hyper anti-Semitic pieces that he did music. Historians I studied under were the best in Germany, they drew a straight-line from him to Hitler .He is the only composer I abhor .

I imagine than when a skilled musician sees some thing in Music they judge ,the music as music alone .A historian might be prone to look at its effect in general as that is his skill . Of course , the musician knows more in his realm ,
what you correctly see as a fabulous twist in , say Mahler, I might hear as a dog chasing his tail

P.S . I don't know the bloggers name as I never heard of him .