NOS Grace F9E question

@nandric

Dear chakster, I own both; JVC-X1, mk1 as well mk2 . Both

have solid beryllium cantilever + shibata stylus. If titanium

cantilevers are available than as separate styli. There are also

aluminum kinds available for both X-1,mk 1 and mk 2.

What’s the point? You don’t have the model i am talking about, this model is X-1IIE and it comes with Titanium Cantilever (tapered pipe), the stylus replacement part is orange. The models you’re talking about are all have Beryllium Cantilevers (solid rod) and they are completely different (with clear stylus replacement part). I hope you can see them all on my pictures above.

The rest of what you’re talking about are made by JICO, because JVC/Victor never ever made those top models with aluminum cantilevers. JICO made modern replacement for them, they are also orange in color, but does not have tention wire, they are not even SAS and very bad quality compared to the original Beryllium or Titanium.

P.S. X-1, X1II, X-1IIe cartridges killing the Grace F9 series with ease, they are superior and belongs to the best MM ever (they are also much lower in compliance which is no problem to use on any modern tonearm).

Ceramic is even more resonant and very bad for cantilevers. Other than in cartridges some manufacturers used in headshells and tonearms and all sounds really bad.

Raul, You’re comparing Apples to Oranges and i believe you have never ever tried the Grace with Ceramic Cantilever to even talk about it (this model is extremely rare). Also nobody knows the process used in manufacturing such cantilevers. I am not trying to say this is the best material, but anyone who blame it should have it at least. You’re talking about headshells and tonearms when the question is cartridge and its tiny cantilever. I use ceramic record weight (disc stabilizer) made by Noritake and it’s excellent compared to Micro Seiki copper disc stabilizer (but i think it has nothing to do with the cantilever). 

Do you know any audio products made of bamboo? Miyajima made first Bamboo cantilever not so long ago. Nobody made such cantilevers before, so what?

Every rejoinder starts a new argument.  I'm guilty too.

Dear @lewm : That's transient response and speed where LOMC are way better but to each his own.

@tzh21y , thank's to confirm you are satisfied with your F9 gift and if what you said is new then still will improves a little with more hours playing. Good !

R.

thanks guys for the info on the voltage output. @chakster I was looking for info on the F9 and also the Level II cartridges. @rauliruegas thanks for that link - I had actually seen it before. it’s what made me wonder why it’s so hard to get simple output numbers (the info isn’t there in that blurb). I’m guessing that it was the arrival of low output MC cartridges that made voltage output into an issue (or a ’thing’ as we’d put it these days). I’m too young to know first hand but at least that could explain the dearth of specs on the Grace F9s etc.