Ohm Walsh Micro Talls: who's actually heard 'em?


Hi,

I'd love to hear the impressions of people who've actually spent some time with these speakers to share their sense of their plusses and minuses. Mapman here on Audiogon is a big fan, and has shared lots on them, but I'm wondering who else might be familiar with them.
rebbi
I did get my 2000s last night! :-)

The boxes were huge and heavy, with triple-boxing and wood and foam inserts. Good thing, too: UPS did their usual best to destroy whatever might be inside. They only succeeded in damaging the outer boxes, however.

I unboxed them (pretty easily), then unwrapped them. There were a few surprises. I have exchanged emails with John Strohbeen to address some issues, and John seems most determined to resolve everything to my satisfaction. For that reason, I will not be commenting on these issues at this time. Suffice it to say that John is dedicated to cadillac customer service.

My basement floor (carpeted cement) is not flat. The speakers wobble significantly. My Vandersteen 1Cs use a 3-point spike base, so this has not been an issue. Ohm is sending me some pads to level and stabilize the speakers, but until these are in place, I cannot fairly comment on the sound of the speakers. I also have to take some time and dial in my Vandersteen 2Wq subwoofers.

Conveniently, the ganged banana plug connector that was supplied with my Vandersteen 1Cs matches the spacing on the Walsh 2000 speaker terminals, so the switch was easy.

After listening to a demo CDR I compiled on my Vandersteen 1Cs, I switched to the Ohms. By this time, they had reached room temperature. The Ohms are 25.5" from the side walls and 37.5" from the front wall (I have very little room to move these closer or farther from adjacent walls). Note that there is a huge 55" SD RPTV behind (by about 10") and in between the speakers, and there are CD cabinets next to and on top of the RPTV. The rest of my gear is in my "System" link.

Space is tight, so for now, the Vandys are placed against the side walls next to the Ohms. This will be changed as soon as possible. Note that the signal from the amp is high-pass filtered, first order, below 80Hz, so it is down 6dB at 40Hz, and 12dB at 20Hz.

Initial impressions were positive. I could tell immediately that the 2000s were better than my Vandersteen 1Cs is two key areas: Timbre and flatness of frequency response. In some areas, the two are actually more alike than different. I am not very surprised by this, since both use designs that eliminate or minimize box and baffle colorations. I also heard a bit more detail with the Ohms, and there was more extension of soundstage into the room. The center image was better defined and more stable, as well as taller, than the Vandys. Most noticeable, however, was the elimination, on certain familiar material, of a tendancy for specific musical notes to jump out and obscure other parts of the music. I had always attributed this to room acoustics (which are far from perfect). But I guess this was due to irregularities in the Vandys' frequency response.

The 2000s are clearly less efficient than the 1Cs, as I tried for at least a general level match using a Rat Shack SPL meter, and had to raise the volume on the preamp roughly one to two "hours" on the dial. I still was listening at a comfortable 9 or 10 o'clock, however.

Naturally, the speakers are not broken in, and I have just begun the lengthy process of burn-in, positioning, dialing in my subs, and critical listening.

I will keep this thread informed, but for now, I am cautiously optimistic.
Bondman,

Fun stuff!

Sounds like you're on the right track. Getting a solid foundation to sit on is of course important for clean bass. I suspect also settings for best integration with the sub might change over time as the OHMs break in and as you refine the exact location of the speaks in the room.
NIce, glad you're starting to break them in - LIke Mapman said, looks like you'll be tweaking for a little while, as they settle. Have fun...
Wow, cool, have fun, and keep us posted.

Yes, Ohm's customer service is excellent. John will do whatever it takes to make you happy.
OK - day two. I didn't have the strength last night to fiddle with the subs or move the Vandys out of the way. I did toe-in the 2000s just a smidge, maybe 1/2" from parallel.

I watched a few tracks from The Best of Sessions at 54th Street (DVD - PCM stereo audio). This of course went through my cheap Sony DVD player and Sherwood-Newcastle P-965 prepro into the C-J preamp. I am very familiar with this DVD, and the extra detail from the Ohms vs. my Vandys was very impressive. Imaging was not as good as with CD, but that's likely due to the prepro. Some of the tracks, especially the Ani DiFranco cut "32 Flavors" gave me chills up my spine. Very engaging. Very encouraging!

I also played two CDs I just bought (never heard on my system with the Vandys, so can't compare). The first, "Sweet Heart Dealer" by Scarling, sounded terrible. Very digital, thin and bass-shy. I am guessing it's just the way this CD was produced. I did play a cut from Quicksand - "Thorn in My Side" that I know for sure is poorly produced, and while listenable, the 2000s did not make a silk purse out of this sow's ear.

Next up was another new purchase, "Begin to Hope" by Regina Spektor. All I can say is, based on what I heard on my not-yet-burned-in, improperly positioned 2000s with improperly set subwoofers, is, if you own Walsh speakers, BUY THIS DISC! It just clicked. Great timbre, huge soundstage, excellent detail retrieval, superb imaging. I was emotionally engaged through most of the disc, and there was that sweetness to the sound that was very appealling.

So, two discs, the same signal chain, and two very different results. I suppose that this is what is meant by good systems providing garbage-in, garbage-out. My Vandys, by comparison, seemed to homogenize music more, so nothing sounded really great, but nothing sounded really bad.

Two very significant observations:

1. I frequently nod off when listening to music in the evening. Not eye-blinks, but deep sleep disturbed only by my choking on my own saliva. This did not happen last night. Although I began to doze off a few times, the music startled me into an alert state almost immediately. This is a very good sign.

2. Typically, when I sit down to listen to music, I experience fatigue soon, and switch to a movie (I have a combo 2-channel/HT surround system). This did not happen last night. When the two CDs were finished, I did watch the DVD, but it was a music program in 2-channel stereo. Another very good sign. (I may have to cut back on my NetFlix subscription!)

Further updates to follow.