Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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"...saying someone has been selling fire hazards when there has never been even one case..."
This is not that much of a strong supportive statement. Having a nuclear bomb in a backyard would be some sort of a hazard, even when there has never been a one case of it exploding in someone’s backyard.

O..M..G! Wow! Leave to glubson to open with the nuclear bomb ploy. Will these people stop at nothing? What’s next? Oh, don’t tell me! They wouldn’t go THERE, would they? 😩 DON’T DO IT GLUBSON!!

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Extra credit: how many audiophiles destroyed their neighborhood with an accidental atomic bomb detonation?
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geoffkait, what's inside the Mpingo?  I don't recall it being said that there was anything inside. I can't find a reference to that on the web. I remember the stir these things caused in the 90's. Its kind of like the current tuning discussion.
I would like to buy some closer to $50 each, not $90.  Wish they had a sale.  Two for one deal and I’m all in.  
They used to be all over the Internet for $40 previously owned but I haven’t looked in a while. Maybe some kind soul will read this and offer you some. But there’s worse news.  It appears the usual sellers are out of stock. And no ads pop up on the used market. End game. 😫