Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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Nope, didn't change speakers.  The speakers I had at the time were rated for 90dB at 2.83V and seemed well-suited to both amps.  The small (and pretty well-known) class D amps were rated at 400 wpc into 8 ohms.

glupson
geoffkait,

Do not get too upset. My questions are, in general, not addressed to you. So far, you have shown that you do not answer questions.

>>>>I don’t get upset. I get even. I don’t answer questions? Give me an example. That would so unlike me. Perhaps you are confused, pumpkin. Ordinarily if someone asks me what time it is I’ll explain how to make a clock. Have a nice day. Do not get too upset. I know it’s your nature.🌷🌷🌷
glupson, sorry, but in this case you are partially incorrect.  Geoff does always answers questions, but the answers are always the same.  Pop quiz, what are Geoff's answers?

Let me help, wire directionality, magic markers on the edges of CD's, cryogenics, and vibration control. There may be one or two others I am missing.
Poor little jitter, still trying to get back in the game. Brain freeze down in Vermont apparently does last the whole year round. 😳

pop quiz: can two 1/2 wits really add up to a whole wit?

jetter,

I think even those are not the answers. He does continue talking same few things, but actually not as an answer. They are statements frequently unrelated to anything asked.


geoffkait,

I will repeat my question. What model is your Panasonic portable CD player.