I bet that amp will never get out of 2nd gear in a small room even with the SF speakers, and it's doubtful you will ever use up the 30 watts unless you use your room for drunken dance festivals...30 single ended watts is a strong wallop of mojo. I initially used my 12WPC Dennis Had SEP amp with allegedly 91db speakers (they may have actually been closer to 89db based on Stereophile measurements) in a largish room, and the preamp (SS with lots of gain) had enough gain to drive the amp into clipping which I only did when wondering, "what does this amp sound like when clipping?" Music could be plenty loud well below the clipping point so I just enjoyed the crap out of the rig...switched to 99db speakers eventually (Klipsch Heresy III) which really are more appropriate for this amp, and use a lower output tube preamp. Now things can get way louder than I ever want it to with absolute clarity, well under the clipping zone.
Low power tube amp for Sonus Faber?
I'm thinking of buying an Italian tube integrated Mastersound 845 compact for my SF Elipsa SE.
It uses 2 845 Valves, single ended at 30W per Channel. Would really like to try a valve amp on the Elipsa. Is this a mistake? Has anyone tried this? I've listened to Mastersound pf100 which are 120W mono blocks and I was blown away. Unfortunately the price difference is nearly ten fold. Has anyone tried using a low power valve amp with SF?
It uses 2 845 Valves, single ended at 30W per Channel. Would really like to try a valve amp on the Elipsa. Is this a mistake? Has anyone tried this? I've listened to Mastersound pf100 which are 120W mono blocks and I was blown away. Unfortunately the price difference is nearly ten fold. Has anyone tried using a low power valve amp with SF?
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Hi ei1001h, I can understand your fondness for the Mastersound 845 as they can sound simply gorgeous with the ’right’ speaker match. You’ve received some good replies. 1. George makes a compelling point in regard to the load demands of your speakers in the difficult mid bass region. 2. I find it interesting that atmasphere doesn’t consider this to be a challenging issue (mid bass load ). 3. Mr. Garcia makes a keen observation that in a small room the 30 watt SET amplifier won’t be a limiting factor (he may be right given the circumstances ). Is there any possibly to hear the Mastersound in your system prior to purchase? Obviously this would settle the issue. Best of luck, Charles |
If I crank up the volume, am I risking amp to clip and damage my elipsa?No. i really wanna get the amp, I’m in love with it.Imagine putting monster truck tires on a British sports car from the 1950s- if you really want to experience the charm of such a vehicle, put appropriate tires on it. Same thing here- if the amp is the determining aspect, get a set of speakers that will do it justice. A more efficient speaker and maybe one with higher impedance as well will really help. |
ei001h OP I’ve never been a fan of solid state amps with "autoformers" like the MacIntosh has, band-aid fix for amps that can’t do the job without the autoformer. Sadly "if" the Elipsa had bi-amp speaker terminals having the SE845 on the mids and highs (250hz up) and the Krell on the bass (250hz down) would have been the way to go, with a passive volume control on the louder one to match the levels, but sadly they don’t have bi-amp speaker terminals. And I not a biggest fan of the KSA300s bass is great, but they lost some of the magic in the mids and highs when they went with that 1st generation plateau biasing for some reason with the "s" models. Out of all those four amps you have, and you can’t bi-amp. It’s the Mac or the Krell, my bet is on the Krell. Or cull all 4 amps you have and get one magic one like the Gryphon Antillion Evo 3 or 4 user switchable Class-A bias on the front panel even while musics playing, my friend has one of these on his Wilson Alexia’s, it’s a game over for amp searching, it does everything, the bass of the biggest Krells and the ease and euphonic’s of the SE845’s. There is another amp at a reasonable price, and that's the new JC5 Halo it was bought out as an answer to potential buyer not being able to afford the JC1 monoblocks, John Curl as you may know is one of the gods of advancement amp design like Nelson Pass, they don't rest and reconfigure what was around in the old days but rather advance designs with new and advancing technologies, neither though have embraced Class-D. Cheers George |
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