Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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Liar liar pants on 🔥 You just don’t like the answer. And you were lying that you had asked me the question on some previous occasion obviously. 
@geoffkait...………………………………………………..

I know you seem to be well respected here especially with over 11K posts to your name.   It seems to me and I am only speaking of myself that most of your comments are quite snarky (when I say snarky I am being polite).  From your posts, even if I was interested in whatever it is you sell, I would not buy anything from you, even if it was free.  It always seem if someone doesn't agree with you, you call them names, etc.  Again, I am speaking for merely myself.   I wonder what names you will now call me, lol.

I know I get annoyed from time to time and say things without thinking (and get called out on it), none of us are perfect, especially me, but can't you be a bit nicer or is it not in your blood to do so?  Frankly, I am surprised everyone seems to put up with it.  Ok, so now everyone can tar and feather me for speaking my mind.
@glupson...…………………………

Thank you very much.  I truly thought I was in the vast minority.
"But to answer your question, I actually prefer not (rpt) to say which Panasonic model I’m using at present..."
Thanks for that precise answer about what Panasonic model you are using. If it were kindergarten, you would not get to play marbles with us.