Small or large sub for music


I've been using a pair of Velodyne HGS-10s to supplement KEF LS50s below 50 Hz, but I read that larger subs are better for music because the cone needs excursion.  Is there any truth to this?  I have a pair of HGS-15s that I could use to supplement the LS50s or Reference 1s (below 40 Hz) if I go there.  The HGS-15s do HT superbly.

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Bass frequencies absolutely require MUCH more power than treble or mids, to state otherwise is ridiculous.
Why, it’s almost like you didn’t go to school. Oh, I almost forgot. You didn’t.

@wolf_garcia wrote:

"Bass frequencies absolutely require MUCH more power than treble or mids, to state otherwise is ridiculous."

The musical spectrum normally has more energy at low frequencies than at mid and high frequencies, with 400 Hz being the approximate midpoint for power distribution.

But if a speaker is "flat" down to 20 Hz, then by definition that means it requires the same amount of power to reach a given SPL at 20 Hz as it does elsewhere in the spectrum.

The reason a subwoofer might need a 500 watt amp to keep up with speakers that only need 50 watts is, the subwoofer is perhaps 10 dB less efficient than the main speakers. The way to get deep bass extension in a small box is to trade off efficiency (or to equalize, which is another way of doing the same thing). If the subwoofer box was 10 times larger, its efficiency would be 10 dB higher (perhaps matching that of the main speakers). But it’s more practical to build a 500 watt amp into a small sub than to have a much more efficient large sub.

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I've been in the actual music biz for over 5 decades...back when we used Altec A7s (extremely efficient) we typically ran maybe 200 watts into the bass speakers and 50 to 100 into the horns to make things balanced. Now I use 1500 watt powered bass systems, with maybe 350 watts per side for full range main speakers. Look at meters for output on home gear and you get the story...bass frequencies take up a lot of juice, even with efficient speakers...they simply do.
For one thing we’re discussing subs, not full range. For another thing the reason you need a lot of power for many speakers to produce bass is that they are 3 dB or 6 dB or 9dB down at very low frequencies. Many speakers are more than 9 dB down 25 Hz. Which is why you sometimes need a sub in the first place. Hel-loo! If you need a lot of power to get decent bass you’re doing it all wrong. This ain’t rocket science, folks. 🚀