Best Loudspeakers for Rich Timbre?


I realise that the music industry seems to care less and less about timbre, see
https://youtu.be/oVME_l4IwII

But for me, without timbre music reproduction can be compared to food which lacks flavour or a modern movie with washed out colours. Occasionally interesting, but rarely engaging.

So my question is, what are your loudspeaker candidates if you are looking for a 'Technicolor' sound?

I know many use tube amps solely for this aim, but perhaps they are a subject deserving an entirely separate discussion.
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@prof wrote: "I’ve never heard more room sound contribute to more accurate timbre."

Thanks for replying!

Many speakers do not generate beneficial room sound.

Most speakers’ off-axis response has a significantly different spectral balance from the direct sound, and as a result the reverberant energy is not spectrally correct. This can degrade timbre, and can even cause listening fatigue. I can explain the latter if you would like.

As an example of what a spectrally-correct reverberant field can contribute, imagine listening to a grand piano outdoors vs in a good recital hall. The timbre is improved (enriched, we might say) by the spectrally-correct reverberant energy in the recital hall.

So I’m not an advocate of reflections in general, but I am an advocate of reflections done right. Imo "reflections done right" involves paying attention to the spectral balance, arrival time, total energy, and even arrival direction of the reflections, in particular the first few.

Duke

audiokinesis,

Yes I'm aware of the effects of off-axis response.  I've had quite a number of speakers with good, even off-axis response (I tend to favour them).  

For reference, among the speakers I still currently own are the MBL 121 omni-directional monitors (radiate evenly), and the Waveform Mach MC monitor, specifically designed for wide radiating even power response.
Here's a review of a Waveform speaker that uses this egg-shaped mid/tweeter module (I had the Mach Solos in my room as well):

http://www.audio-ideas.com/reviews/loudspeakers/waveform_mach_solo.html

At least in my experience, even speakers that have good off-axis response sound timbrally more true and complex when reducing room sound.  

Though I can totally see how the right size/room reverberation can add "tonal richness" to the sound - the singing-in-the-shower effect, to some degree.

Hi Prof,

Again, thanks for replying.

Imo the size disparity between a 6" midrange cone and a 1" tweeter dome make it impossible for such a speaker’s off-axis response to have the same spectral balance as its on-axis response. At the crossover frequency, the cone will be beaming somewhat but the tweeter’s pattern will be about 180 degrees wide (constrained by the baffle itself), and this wide pattern will hold up for another octave or so higher before it starts to narrow appreciably. Such a speaker’s power response (summed omnidirectional response) can be smooth OR its on-axis response can be smooth, but not BOTH at the same time. And a significant discrepancy between the two is not conducive to good timbre in my opinion.

Omni or quasi-omni speakers tend to generate spectrally-correct reverberant fields, but they also (by definition) send a lot of energy towards the nearby walls. So they tend to generate a lot of early reflections. Imo even spectrally-correct early-arrival energy can be detrimental to clarity, as shown by the negative effects of early reflections at "bad" seats in concert halls. This may be somewhat offset by the extra early-arrival energy becoming extra late-arrival energy after a few bounces.

I believe that I am at odds with Floyd Toole here - I believe he finds early reflections to be beneficial, assuming they are spectrally correct. My source on the negative effects of early reflections in concert halls is David Griesinger, and it is my opinion that that applies to our listening rooms as well.

Duke

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+1 @audiokinesis

Total agreement. 6 inch woofer is simply too big for the mid range. B&W and countless other speakers never sound completely natural for this very reason. To sound natural a speaker must have wide consistent dispersion across the full frequency range.

I also don’t like early reflections as it collapses the sound to the vicinity of the speakers and reduces the stereo image effect