Solid State vs. Tubes - What if Transistors came first?


What do you guys think?

If transistors came first, and then decades later tubes were invented, would we have any tube amps we would call high end?

Wouldn’t they all fail to reach the height of performance and transparency set by transistor amps?

Best,

E

P.S. I love Conrad Johnson. I'm just wondering how  much of our arguments have to do with timing. 
erik_squires
"I am sorry, I don't want third world made parts in my equipment."
You are in trouble. Short of Red Bull, everything else may be produced in some "Third World" country.
This is an interesting subject.
Ralph where are you ? Besides tubes what is not exactly Western in those amps of yours ?
I would not be so sure when it comes to Gryphon, Ypsilon, Wavac, Allnic, Swiss electronics etc.
In my amplifier, many things could be not Western although I have no way of telling. It does say "Made in Japan" on it so my quick guess would be that at least some parts are from there making them Eastern. Not exactly "Third World" country, but when you mentioned "Western".

My comment about "third world made parts" was more along the lines of "it is hard to know where things are coming from these days and why does it matter anyway". Again, short of Red Bull, although who knows where they get sugar from. Probably not from Switzerland or Japan.
Yeah, why it matters is a subject that cannot really be discussed here besides the quality point. Japan, South Korea and Taiwan are not third world countries. 
It is very easy to know if told.
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dave_b
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