Do speaker cables need a burn in period?


I have heard some say that speaker cables do need a 'burn in', and some say that its totally BS.
What say you?


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chazro,

I have to disappoint you. Those three deleted posts were mine and were actually only one. Something was wrong with Audiogon and it would give error message while posting it. It put it out three times with one click. I tried to delete two but all got deleted so I gave up posting.

Sorry, it was not that exciting after all.

Speaking of ABX testing. Interesting result, very interesting.

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I had a long conversation during the show with Thorsten Loesch of Abbington Musical Research and IFI. He told me a fascinating story about confirmation bias. That’s when you are so sure of something that even strong evidence to the contrary will not persuade you to change your mind.

Thorsten put together a blind ABX testing where he told participants it was a comparison of two power cables. But when he went behind the curtains, ostensibly to change the power cable, what he actually did was switch the speaker cables on one channel, so the system was playing out of phase. Thorsten had three different types of audiophiles take his test: subjectivists, objectivists, and those who were neither. The subjectivists and neutral listeners heard the effects of the system being thrown out of phase. The objectivists heard no differences. It was a robust test with clearly correlated results.

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The fact that the objectivists in Thorsten’s test were the ones who were so set in their opinions that it blinded them to the aural facts in front of their ears is a delicious irony. Why? Because those audiophiles who embrace ABX testing with the most fervor are those who believe most strongly in effects of expectation bias, which is why sighted testing is, in their eyes, flawed. Thorsten’s test indicates a strong tendency for objectivists to listen with closed ears whether the test is blind or sighted, which isn’t very objective, is it?



That’s what I like to call the Backfire Effect. It can work both ways but usually occurs with skeptics who have pretty much made up their minds on a particular subject but who may create arguments that make it seem like they have an open mind. The Backfire Effect occurs when a skeptic is faced with contradictory evidence, perhaps even a barrage of contradictions. Rather than weight the evidence the skeptic holds his beliefs even more strongly. Plus they’d rather fight than switch. 🤼‍♂️

It would be interesting to see if the test results could be repeated. It would also be interesting to know how many subjects were in each group.

People rarely change their opinions. It goes for both sides.

glubson, yes, you would be interested in blah, blah but I don’t see you rolling your sleeves up yourself. Oh, I almost forgot. You’re a member in good standing of the peanut gallery. You may continue pontificating.