Magnepan MMG or something else


Hi,

I'm looking for input on speakers. I am trying the MMGs and going into my sixth week with them. They do sound good but there still seems to be a little lacking in the musical involvement. I know that's subjective. They don't seem bass shy in my setup which is a McIntosh MA6600 and an ARC CD2 with a Pro-Ject 9 turntable. What are some opinions on these speakers or perhaps another moderate cost speaker that might fit the bill or is someone's favorite?
rtaylor
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Maggies sound is very sensitive to placement in the room and where you listen from accordingly. Have you tried tweaking the placement for best sound at you prime listening position? There are lots of possibilities on how to place MAggies that can have a big effect on their overall musicality.

Most good mmg setups I have heard are strong on musicality and micro-dynamics but weaker on bass and large scale dynamics. Could large scale dynamics be the aspect of "musicality" that is not happening?

If mmgs alone are scoring with bass levels but not musicality, that could well be a setup problem.

Regarding macro-dynamics/slam, if that is the issue, the common solution worth a try is to add a sub.

IF all this fails, then it might be time to move on but I would do whatever might be possible to max out performance of what you have first before making that decision.

Were you to move on, I would recommend a decent pair of Dynaudio monitors might be a good option. I also like OHM Walsh speakers in that they have a lot of planar-like musical traits but also excellent dynamics overall.
Have you considered replacing your MAC-6600 with an amp with more PRaT? Maybe you don't have synergy with your cables? Remember a Magnepan needs many hours(500+)for a complete break in!
You need to identify what aspects are contributing to your lack of involvement, otherwise this is just a crapshoot. Is it timing? Is it a lack of tonal richness or image density? Or a lack of dynamics? Involvement may be subjective but that doesn't mean you can't identify what's causing it, and it would make this post much more helpful and productive.
Some good advice here, and I agree with Soix -- you need to tell us more about why they aren't involving, if you can put it into words.

As several have said, placement is key. In particular, they want to be out from the front wall behind them -- at least 5', the more the better.

Also, that wall should be reasonably flat so you get a good image.

Agree that the bigger ones are improvements over the MMG's, but you can get much of the way there by mounting your MMG's so that they're standing vertically and raised off the floor, with the driver centered vertically on your ears. Try it with some boxes first. It makes them image like the big ones. Then there are various options for stands. Raising the up and vertical will make them image like the big boys, almost.

Finally, adding the DWM woofer will extend the bass. You have a relatively big room and you may not be getting the low frequency foundation you need. The midbass region in particular is crucial to a sense of heft and involvement.