Home Theater Receiver recommendations for B&W 803S?


Hi!  I'm on the hunt for a new receiver, since I recently upgraded my main speakers, and I'd like to have one that also passes 4K signal.  

My current setup:

Denon AVR-4308CI
Left & Right: B&W 803S
Center: B&W HTM2
Surrounds B&W 301
Sub: Energy 8"

I recently upgraded to the 803S's on the left/right; replacing my original Nautilus 805's.  Now I need to upgrade the rest of the system!

I think the first step is the receiver, especially since I'd like to be able to pass 4K to my projector.   Then will likely upgrade the sub (Am considering the Monoprice Monolith, 10" or 12"...). And I'm also on the hunt for a HTM3S, to better match the 803S's. 

I'd love to know what Receiver recommendations folks have that will pair nicely with these speakers.  Ideally under ~$2K  - and I really don't care much about other bells & whistles (multi zone, bluetooth, wifi, whatever). I'd rather the money go into the best possible D/A, amplifiers, etc... and leave other tech gadgetry to other boxes.

Appreciate any/all input! Thanks!  :)






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Couple of things I’m going to re-iterate. That digital COAX cable is good for everything except a few scenarios:

- Bluray with Dolby TrueHD
- Bluray with DTS-MA HD
- Some streaming that uses Dolby Digital Plus. I have seen sometimes if you try using digital COAX for Dolby Digital Plus where the sound may have "skipping" problems every few seconds when the processor tries to synch or it may only give you the 2-channel left/right channels. In this case, you must use Dolby Digital Plus over HDMI.
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Feel free to upgrade your bluray player if you want. It might improve the sound a little, but I don’t think it will give you that visceral and spatial imaging you are craving. And the digital COAX will, ultimately, only improve the sound on 2-channel PCM audio and old DVD movies.

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" lack of clear imaging " - heh, I keep recommending this fuse upgrade because it is such a cheap investment, it’s almost a no-brainer. While the Marantz is very excellent at giving a full and true sounding waveform, it is rolling off the upper mids and highs. The fuse would put the audio back into focus and would really improve clarity and spatial imaging. A power cord upgrade can also help here, but it becomes hugely more expensive and it can be difficult to match the proper power cord. Making the highs more clean/clear could help reduce that "fatiguingly bright" effect because a warm sound will actually smear the highs and make them more harsh. Or, it could be that you are just now hearing the problems with those aluminum tweeters on a full range system. Or it could be you are hearing problems with harshness caused by the low cost interconnects, or even low cost stranded speaker wire. lol. Stock power cords can also create a bright/harsh fatiguing sound on a very high resolution system. Welcome to the wonderful world of tweaking audiophile systems.

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For acoustics, if you definitely have a bass resonation in that corner behind the speaker, then putting a GIK Acoustics "Soffit" or "Tri-trap" in that corner will help. You can even stack two to make an 8 foot high bass trap.
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For that particular speaker, I would also put a normal acoustic panel right on the wall just in front of the speaker. This would be a normal 2-3" panel, like the GIK Spot Panel. Since the speaker is only a few inches away from the wall, it actually uses the wall to act like a "horn" that boosts certain frequencies with that first reflection point. Not a good thing, lol. Or I can advise you on how to make your own panel (it’s just some Owens 703 fiberglass that is covered with fabric such as Guilford of Main or something).
Ok, you've successfully twisted my arm about the fuse upgrade! I just opened up the Marantz and pulled the fuse, so I could figure out which to buy.

Looks like it's the 5x20 size.  The circuit board and the etching on the fuse are T2AL/250V... From a bit of Googling, it looks like this means:

T = slow blow
2A = 2 amps
L = glass
250v = rated voltage

My best guess is that I should get this one:
https://www.partsconnexion.com/FUSE-80979.html

Though that one appears to be an extra slow blow. Will that matter? 

I also just read a few reviews and commentary on fuses, and of course started going down the rabbit hole of various other options (and reading lots of arguments about whether fuses are "snake oil" or not...). Anyway, if i'm going to swap out the fuse, I'm willing to spend a few more bucks if it'll be an even more notable improvement.

The fuse isn't particularly easy to get to in the Marantz...have to pull off two covers, and then remove another circuit board. Doable, but it's not something I want to be doing often. So if I can get a better fuse now for a few bucks more...

I saw the Supreme 3 available around some shops for $60 to $75... and then there's the Synergistic Blue for $150...  will spending more on those likely yield any better results?


And your points about coax vs. hdmi are duly noted.

And yep, need to some work on acoustic panels. Thanks for pointing me to GIK.
Just came across this power cord on Parts Connexion... wondering if it might be a good choice for either the Rotel or the Marantz, especially since it's 10awg. Tried to find info on "Connex" cables but didn't turn up much.

https://www.partsconnexion.com/CONNEX-76701.html
Yeah, starting to read comments on fuses will reveal that there are a lot of "naysayers" that cannot help stating that fuses do not make any difference and will not stop until they have the last word.  They are much like religious extremests and it's hard to have a adult conversation with them.  Add in that they refuse to even try a fuse because they are so against them and are constantly arguing for someone to "prove it makes a difference". lol.  The people who have actually tried a fuse will 90% of the time say that it does make a difference in sound and mostly for the better. 

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That being said, for me, fuse is a tool to help tune the sound.  There really isn't a "best fuse" and I will comment on what I have tested:
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Hi-Fi Tuning Silverstar.  This is 100% silver and, since silver is the best conductor, it is the fastest at transferring current.  The result is a very fast and high resolution sound.  Sometimes this "fast sound" can be too bright/harsh in some systems, but since we are working with the "warm" Marantz, we need that speed.  I actually have a couple Silverstar fuses in a receiver that needs all the help it can get.

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Hi-Fi Tuning Supreme.  These are 99% silver and 1% gold.  It is still a very excellent fuse, but just a very tiny bit warmer than the Silverstar.  If Silverstar is the fastest at 100% speed, the Supreme would probably be around 95% as fast/bright.

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Furutech - these are made from pure copper and the end-caps are rhodium plated, with anti-resonance filler inside the fuse.  They are very excellent, but take forever to burn in (400-450+ hours).  They are probably about 85% the speed of the Silverstar.  They can be slower sounding than stock fuses, but they are much smoother and have better resolution.
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Isoclean or the Hi-Fi Tuning "Cu" fuse.  These are pure copper with gold-plated endcaps.  These are much warmer sounding and will soften the highs much more then the other fuses.  They are a good tool if you have equipment that is too bright/harsh sounding.
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There are many people who love the BLUE fuse, but I have not tested it.  It's very expensive at $150 and since I can get most things done with Furutech or Hi-Fi Tuning, I haven't made the jump to try the BLUE.

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I put the Silverstar out there as a very cheap recommendation.   And yes, that 2A Slo-Blo or "Extra Slow Blow" is what I would recommend. If they don't have it in stock, you could go for a 2.5A or 1.8A.   I have used this fuse and it's very good.  If you wanted to spend more and get a "Supreme" fuse, that's fine as well.  The Silverstar is faster.  If I had to judge, the Supreme might be just a little more refined sounding.  There could be situations where the Silverstar is just a bit too fast/bright, but there could also be situations where you really need that fastest sounding fuse.