No one actually knows how to lculate what speaker cable they need

Mr. mitch2

You kind of have a point.

Some get hysteric about 0.999% purity in cooper wire vs. a 0.9999%! At a time some way bigger issues are hidden below the cover of our equipment.

None is treated for directionality, cryogenic, skin effect or high purity cooper. They are all standard wires and PCBs.

Most so called hi-end cables, pretentiously use superior materials and look are practically poor conductors for the task of most amplifiers (thin wires). Those are not a match and never been calculated for the task. My idea, of having the optimum conductor (calculated) from materials that are not so pretentious or superior (by purity or any other crap), do the job and get fantastic results. It is time to weak up and faces this reality.

Mr. b4icu,

"When you get a 0 AWG cable, that has a 0.1% loss due to none purity dos not equals to a 14 AWG that has a resistance of 2.52 Ohms per 1000m, vs. a 0 AWG that has a resistance of 0.093 ohms per 1000m. This ratio is of x27 times or 2,700% (not 0.1%)."

I cannot believe we are having this discussion. This is not real world. Tell me exactly, please, who, in the reality I live in, uses 1000m of speaker wire? An aircraft carrier? If there are audiophiles on such ships, then they are your market. Go get 'em.

And...even if say for the sake of argument, someone uses 10m of these wires, then that is:

0.0252 Ohm for 10 m of 14 AWG
0.00093 Ohm for 10 m of 0 AWG

Who cares? You CANNOT hear any sonic differences due to this resistance difference alone! Electrically, this is chasing angels on a pinhead when it comes to an AC audio signal of a few volts, if that.

I'm sorry but this is biggest bag of (Maritime51 please insert here) ever concocted.

From what I gather a decent 0 AWG welding cable with suitable connectors (correctly attached) will work with 95% of the speaker/amplifier combinations negating the need for a top secret double probation yadda yadda formula.

Mr. stevecham

I see there is a big understanding gap you need to overcome.

The resistance of #14 vs. #0 is remaining relative, no matter of length. It will apply to any length from 1 m to 1 km or 1 cm.

Who cares? I do. You should too.

If we return to DF and assume it is high (500) it would represent an output resistance of 8/500=0.016 Ohms. (this been repeated many times along this thread).

A #14 wire of 3m long (actually it is 6m) is: 0.01512 Ohms.

That’s as much as the Ro (DF). If so, the actual DF is reduced from 500 to 264. It is half!

That’s why your amplifier investment and you should care.

If you spent $5k on that amplifier, you have just lost 50% of it, due to that poor #14 cable.

If you would use a #0 cable, you would get most of the DF, or the entire $5k you invested in that amp.

What that sounds like? Look at the sharing. More will hopefully follow. Try it yourself instead wasting your time and energy in something you do not understand. It is kind of $60 away from you. Nothing in audio for $60 will get you such an improvment. Ask Mr. conradnash or Mr. keppertup.