Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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tomthiel, I humbly(!) submit that I'm a bit disappointed that you would choose the Benchmark as a reference amp. While probably a very fine amplifier in other circumstances, it seems less than ideal for the task at hand.

https://www.stereophile.com/content/benchmark-media-systems-ahb2-power-amplifier-specifications

This rated 100 Watt (which is the minimum power recommendation for many Thiel loudspeakers) amp with it's balanced only inputs is not compatible with Thiel 3.5's, is not spec'd to double down into 4 Ohms, is only spec'd to 3 Ohms where it's only putting out 240 Watts and not to the sub 3 Ohm levels of some Thiel loudspeakers.

If one had already purchased Thiel maximum power recommended amps capable of 2400 Watts into 2 Ohms (wall power permitting), I think they might think twice before upgrading to "hot rodded" versions that were not tested the maximum output, never mind only tested into 1/10th of that.

After hearing years of complaints from those that have not done their due diligence and used inappropriate amplification and then gone on to disparage the Thiel loudspeakers, I would imagine that setting such an example might be fraught with potential backlash.

Most of the Thiel loudspeakers under consideration here are far from new. I submit that amplifiers with much better and more appropriate capabilities from their own era can be found at comparable prices.




I have a Audio-GD Master 3 power amp (250W 8ohm / 500W 4ohm / 1000W 2ohm), it drives my CS 2.4 perfectly. 
The maximum wattage that can be produced by a 120 VAC, 15 ampere supply, depending on the amp's efficiency, is about 1500 watts.
Regarding 2.4: The XO part of the SE upgrade is simply replacing the 2 coax feed caps with ClairtyCapSA (best at the time). Rob @ CSS has them.

Our upgrades are trumping that in spades. We are replacing all components with carefully chosen, cost effective, high performance parts, and then backing off for a few less expensive cost/performance plateaus. beetlemania and I are addressing the 2.4.
Highlights: later 2.4 XOs were made in China and have less than best coils. We are replacing with old Thiel spec high-test coils in shunts and high-test foil coils in feeds. Resistors were sand-cast and we are using Mills MRA-12s, best of form, great improvement for the buck and near best at any price. beetle has tested and I have confirmed. It's a go.
Caps are ClarityCap for lots of reasons, will explain more later. Two generations past the SA. The CSA is state-of-the-art. All CSAs including replacing all electrolytics with a custom CSA. Bypasses are combination of Thiel custom styrene/tin 1uF with ultra-bypasses: MultiCap RTX or CC-CMR and/or various silver mica and other ultra caps being auditioned. That's the highlights. These parts are CS7.2 and better plus a return to hardwire point to point boards, with added thermal sinking and vibrational damping. Serious stuff toward considerably higher refinement than Thiel's traditional max bang for the buck orientation. We're looking very closely at cost, but making the assumption that you, the owner, has and loves the speaker and will consider this upgrade compared with buying a different speaker. I am confident we will create an exquisite sonic outcome for reasonable cost. Stay tuned. Sorry for delays. Life intervenes.
tomthiel

Will this upgrade be a board that replaces the existing board or a package of components for the user to assemble/install on the existing board? I recently upgraded my 2.4s using Rob's parts and am very pleased with the results, and I'd consider another, once yours is available, but am not sure I have the technical skill to rebuild the board with new parts.