Hello guys,
thank you for the inputs.
I asked those question, because I have both Thiel SS2 and WB Torus at audition at home. The Thiel is mine and Torus is at a loan. I was almost sure that I will replace Thiel with Trous after reading so much enthusiastic opinions.
I would like to replace my Thiel with sub at the same level of performance, but more room friendly and easier to hide.
Now after audition the Torus I am not sure about those replacement.
From technical stand point Torus is quite original approach to sub design no doubt on that. But what I heard is a little disappointment. However Torus is a brand new and out of the box, so maybe requires some break-in period, but I am not sure if break-in may change the sonic signature.
Technical parameters comparison is better for Thiel:
Thiel has 1000W RMS amplifier, Torus only 200W,
Thiel is capable of 105 dB output at 20Hz and 112dB output at 30 Hz. Torus does not go over 100 dB.
Thiel sub in comparison with Torus can go audibly lower in bass, but the most important difference is that Thiel subwoofer is capable of output very resolved sound and definitely more punchy bass. Thiel bass is short, deep and punchy. Torus blends notes together. It is harder to follow music rhythm. There is also tonal differences between notes with Thiel. With Torus all notes seems to sound similar in their character.
I really cant understand why Torus sounds this way, but if it does not improve after few days of working it will be disappointing.
However Thiel also has their own flaws. Their speakers are front firing and sub has four speakers instead of three and sometimes it starts to rattle.
At high volumes there is also rattling sound coming from inside, probably from the board with amp.
In my opinion if Thiel will designe subwoofer with outboard amplifier it would be great improvement.
Also the Thiel has room boundaries compensation circuit, which really works especially when sub is near to walls. With Torus there is no compensation for close to wall placement and it is really audible as the bass is not as clear and linear in room.
Any thoughts?
thank you for the inputs.
I asked those question, because I have both Thiel SS2 and WB Torus at audition at home. The Thiel is mine and Torus is at a loan. I was almost sure that I will replace Thiel with Trous after reading so much enthusiastic opinions.
I would like to replace my Thiel with sub at the same level of performance, but more room friendly and easier to hide.
Now after audition the Torus I am not sure about those replacement.
From technical stand point Torus is quite original approach to sub design no doubt on that. But what I heard is a little disappointment. However Torus is a brand new and out of the box, so maybe requires some break-in period, but I am not sure if break-in may change the sonic signature.
Technical parameters comparison is better for Thiel:
Thiel has 1000W RMS amplifier, Torus only 200W,
Thiel is capable of 105 dB output at 20Hz and 112dB output at 30 Hz. Torus does not go over 100 dB.
Thiel sub in comparison with Torus can go audibly lower in bass, but the most important difference is that Thiel subwoofer is capable of output very resolved sound and definitely more punchy bass. Thiel bass is short, deep and punchy. Torus blends notes together. It is harder to follow music rhythm. There is also tonal differences between notes with Thiel. With Torus all notes seems to sound similar in their character.
I really cant understand why Torus sounds this way, but if it does not improve after few days of working it will be disappointing.
However Thiel also has their own flaws. Their speakers are front firing and sub has four speakers instead of three and sometimes it starts to rattle.
At high volumes there is also rattling sound coming from inside, probably from the board with amp.
In my opinion if Thiel will designe subwoofer with outboard amplifier it would be great improvement.
Also the Thiel has room boundaries compensation circuit, which really works especially when sub is near to walls. With Torus there is no compensation for close to wall placement and it is really audible as the bass is not as clear and linear in room.
Any thoughts?