Vandersteen 5


Hi over the weekend I purchased a set up Vandertseen 5's and a McCormack DNA 225. I have a few questions about the 5's and was hoping someone here could help me. I can't seem to get the bass on either speaker on the 5's to work. The mids and the high's sound great.

1.) I've connected the M5-HP high pass filters between my preamp (a rotel RSX-1550) using RCA to XLR cable (the high-pass is XLR) and XLR to the McCormack amp (which was upgraded to platinum and has both XLR and RCA inputs). Is the lack of bass because I'm using a cable to convert RCA to XLR to connect to the M5-HP high pass filters ? I've looked on the vandersteen site and saw opposing answers from Richard. If not that what else could be wrong with the subs? 

2.) would anyone here want to trade a my XLR M5-HP high pass filters for an RCA one? I'm in the bay area

3.) The speakers were missing the spikes. Does anyone the size. I'd like to order a generic set as vandersteen wants 22 per spike. 

4.) Anything else I should know? My prior speskers were 2CE sigs so I jumped when I saw the 5's for sale. 
mzwerner
Hi everyone thank you for you help. I've read through the 5 manual front and back. 

I'm going to order the spikes from Vandersteen. For now I put the furniture glides on that pmotz suggested.

After speaking with Vandersteen I tested the 5's at low volume without the high-pass (they said ok to do at low volume) and the subs worked.

 I spoke with McCormack this morning and they said that the platinum I have the imp is now 10k not 100k so I need to change that. I'll make the change tonight and see if that works. I've ordered the Jensen and waiting for it to arrive (as a temp solution) I'll eventually save up for a better preamp with xlr outs, or get the RCA high-pass. 

I'm still hoping someone see this and wants a balanced M5-HP that they'd be willing to trade for an RCA one. 

The batteries are right on the verge of needing a change and I'll send them in either this week or next. There's no way in hell I'm doing it. i also contacted Performance Audio in SF and they had zero interest in helping me because I didn't buy the speakers from them. Hey at least they were honest about it, but they did lose a future customer. 

Once everything else is squared away I'll started playing with the frequency controls.

I'm sure I'll have a ton of question and I appreciate all the help. Even as is the speakers sound amazing. 


Oh nuts, 10K is really low and I believe the Balanced crossovers only go to 20K ohms. (Oddly, I am in the same situation with my DNA-1's). 
I think you may have to move to either an unbalanced M5-HP in order to get to 5 or 10K ohms.
I would first try the balanced crossover at it's lowest setting and see if it sounds good.
Bob
@gdnrbob - beleive it or not mine actually go down to 10K (I just looked at a picture of my high pass filter and 10k is the lowest setting). Hopefully that will do the trick. I'm going to try changing it to that setting when I get home tonight. 
super good decisions Vandersteen is  hyper frugal Dutch engineer the things he sells reflect good value IMO
Randy is in SantaMonica and sells a lot of balanced gear, my 5a came from him
give a call he usually has several sets of used filters as customers move from se to balanced, etc...
you got fantastic setup advice
I suggest buying a $50 Leica Disto for precision measurement , make your life easy.
have fun !!!!! you will be shocked how really good they are!!!!!
enjoy the music
jim
Last night I set the High-pass filter to 10k (per McCormack) and well WOW...The Vandersteen's just came to life. The Subs are now firing and I swear the high's and the mid's sound better. While I loved how by 2CE sig's sound the 5's sound much better. 

1.) Now for another question: Do I still need my subs to play LFE signals when I watch movies or will my current setup route the LFE signals to the subs built into the 5's?

My current setup is as follows: 
I've got a Rotel RSX 1550 A/V (yes I'm going to upgrade once budget allows), where I have my surrounds (for now 2Ce's as rears) and center (VCC-1) connected. For the 5's, as the fronts, the Rotel acts as the preamp, sending the front signal to the 5's. I have the 5's set as large and everything else set as small and subs as none. Is this correct and will the LFE be routed to the 5's? the Vandersteen manual says I don't need any other subs. Just wondering if I'll get full effects for movies this way? 

@tomic601 Thank's I'll give Randy a call today and see if he's be willing to swap/sell the filters. I'll also check out the Leica disto. My next project will be getting everything dialed in a positioned correctly, as I'm sure everything is a mess now. 

As for power cables the guy who sold the the 5's and the amp also gave me two anticable power cables, as well as a  VHA Flavor 2. How do I tell which version of the antipower cable I have and is this good enough for the amp? Should I sell the others? The VHA seems to be for preamps, but doesn't fit my rotel. 

Last thing. The guys at SMC audio have been amazing. They've been super help and spent a ton of time with me I'm super appreciative. I also plan on asking them to upgrade my amp once I get everything else dialed in.