Horns: Why don't they image well?


Anyone have a theory?

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erik_squires
@georgehifi I asked have you heard m2/4367. Not all horns are created equal. The JBL patented waveguide used in the M2 and the 4367 is a different sort of beast from the other horns you've heard. Correct me if I'm wrong, but yeah it seems like youre saying you have not heard the m2/4367 and are lumping those horns with Klipsh.
That’s a BIG reason I own Focal. Every time I heard their speakers they were honest and imaged with startling depth, width, and dynamics.
A friend who owns a hifi shop, Len Wallis Audio had the Grand Utopia’s setup driven by Krells in the main room, I listened to them many times and yes, there is no way any horns or JBL’s (my friend had a pair of 4350’s and the very ugly Synthesis 1400), I’ve heard have come close to doing visual image placement in-between and outside the speakers and depth perception like these Focals could, or many ESL’s can either.

Cheers George
Never heard the 4367’s so I can’t comment on them. But looking at that 3" Mid/Highs driver with massive horn crossing over to a 15" at 700hz makes me curious.

Cheers George
Remember, George is just a man, with just an opinion. I respect his judgement, as I respect his knowledge. We all hear differently, and, at least us old timers, want certain attributes and specifics in our systems. I was attracted to horns, not because of imaging or sound staging, but because of their ease, their effortless, dynamic quality that allows music to flow, like live unamplified music. I certainly hear an image created, a stage being presented, music being created, without boundaries, extending beyond every and all of the walls of my speakers. However, I feel this is not the essence of music. What is the essence, is the musicianship. Take a recording like " A Tribute To Jack Johnson ", by Miles Davis ( the original release ), possibly my favorite of his vast library. Two studio sessions, one recorded on 4 / 7, the other recorded 11 / 11 of 1970, brought forth the amazing arrangements of M.D., along with five other fabulous musicians. Want to hear synchronicity at its finest, play it through a great set of horns. Either your system will, or will not, keep up. Enjoy ! MrD.
For me MrD, I want to see every movement visually, when Miles turns slightly left or right or even facing up then down blatting away on that horn and imagine those fingers moving up and down those valves, as the sound and the visual gives me the complete experience, this is why I opt for big ESL's. 
Or I suppose I could sacrifice that and have TV between the speakers to make up for the visual side and play dvd music discs.
For me not just a wall of sound where the trumpet seems to be an edge-less 8ft tall and wide, same goes with singers mouths, I can get that far cheaper yet not as nice from used Bose 901’s this is where the tv would come in handy.

Cheers George