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Tonearms: Ripoff?

If you search for tonearm recommendations you'll find an overwhelming amount of praise for $1k and less products. Audiomods and Jelco are the two most mentioned.

The Audiomods is just some guy making Rega-based tonearms in a workshop. Just some guy is putting out tonearms that compete with tonearms that cost many times the price -- from the likes of SME, Clearaudio, VPI, Graham, etc.

So the question is -- are tonearms just a scam? How is it that everyone loves Audiomods and Jelco to death and never talks about / dismisses high end tonearms? Is it because there's no real difference between one of these low-cost tonearms and the high end ones? Is an Audiomods Series V ** really ** the equivalent of a SME V? Some guy in a workshop equals the famed precision of SME? Is that once you have the math and materials worked out all tonearms are essentially the same? Or is it that most owners of record players online are dumpster-diving for vintage gear and simply can't afford to listen to better?

So, what's going on?
madavid0
nkonor
635 posts
 
@vair68robert,

My questions are quite simple, Please answer them. What is your opinion based on. What is your experience with High End tonearms?

I have known you since October of 1971. We stood as friends until 2 +/- years ago. When did you get the thin skin? What happened? 45 years of supposed friendship over a hobby?  My advice, if you intend to post on Forums, Get Thicker skin.

Since you claim my post is a 2 cents attack on you, please explain on this thread. My questions deserve answers. Do Not send answers to my private email. You accused me on an Open Forum. Please respond and clarify on the same Open Forum.
patterti
1 posts
 
Although his spelling and grammar is atrocious, Raulirruegas is correct. What defines high end? Is it simply a price point or something more complex?
wnurz
6 posts
 
Same old, same old format from the OP.  Quick look at his previous posts, and he's questioned cables, tonearms, companies, etc.  Always the same format. As if he's providing all of us a service by exposing the ugly truth about high end audio.

 I'm sure he'll lash out at me in some form or another for writing this.  Have at it bud.  
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atmasphere
11,740 posts
 
What defines high end? Is it simply a price point or something more complex?
Intention, more than anything else. It certainly isn't price.
tzh21y
1,654 posts
 
For me, its diminishing returns. I am sure the Tri-Planar on the 1200G is fantastic, but on my humble system, the stock arm is really good on the 1200G, especially with MM cartridges. I doubt my system could resolve the subtle details that a great arm such as a Triplanar or Graham, Fidelity Research, Reed, Moerch could and so on. I have heard great arms and I’m pretty sure they make a difference in the subtle details which in high end IS a big deal. The only thing is when you start to get to these levels, everything makes a huge difference, your isolation makes a big difference, like, you better have the system in the basement or slab on grade and so on. lol
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