Back to the OT: When I was in the Air Force we had a Lt. Colonel in the clinic who, in addition to being an MD, was proud of the fact that he had been to shaman school. Never knew what that was or what it meant. Would often see him in his office sitting face to face with patients looking them intently in the eyes. Nothing unseemly, his door was always open, just weird. His patients were loyal to him. I never knew if it was because of his shaman training or the fact that he was extraordinarily liberal with narcotics. He did not believe that anyone should ever have any pain whatsoever.