CDs Vs LPs

Couple of things.

I agree that getting excellent sound from vinyl costs more and takes more time and fiddling to attain. The low level signals from the cartridge are prone to interference and lots of cable dressing and such to eliminate hums can be necessary, and if you have the wrong phono preamps etc. you can have issues that can sometimes only be solved by replacement.

You can attain a good sounding digital rig for a fraction of what the analogue front end costs you, and that added to the convenience factor (I listen to almost all my digital from FLAC files on a server) means that analogue will remain a minority pastime.

When a well recorded album is played on a properly set up analogue rig, it can sound very good indeed and it can be pretty much silent in the background.  I recently played the 1971 Neil Young at Massey Hall LP to a find who works in pro audio and he asked if it was a CD as the background was so quiet.  One shouldn't condemn all vinyl just because your records came from a garage sale and you don't own a decent record cleaning machine.

If the recording chain is less than perfect, it doesn't matter much whether it is analogue or digital - crap is crap and I have listened to quite a few relatively recent remastered digital releases that are inferior to older releases of the same material.

This is all an interesting discussion, but I don't think it leads to any conclusions. Some analogue is excellent and a lot of digital is as well (more today that in the early days, for sure).  You can choose to champion one or the other exclusively, or you can choose my course, which is to enjoy both without any set preconceptions going in.

1877 Thomas Edson invented  the phonograph that’s over 140 years if you don’t believe me look it up . Today’s analog is also mechical look at the inner working of a cartrage. It’s the same principle back then as is is today just more refined based on mechanical vibrations.

My point was to debunk your assertion that a "record" over 100 years old sounds better that current technology...which I assume is digital recording.  That is the silliness I was referring to.

If that is not what you meant then you stated an opinion but expressed it as if it were a fact.

I’ll bite I’m saying analog done right will blow digital at any price point out of the water I’ve listened to many very expensive digital systems although they sounded nice they didn’t give me that lifelike experience. Right now I’m listing to a esoteric DV-60 / bat/ Wilson wp6 in my family room it’s nowhere near my anolog system. Digital is easy analog is for a more lifelike experience,btw a digital player made in 80s sure doesn’t sound like a new DCS digital placer or maybe you will ( debunk) that to saying they didn’t make cds in the 80s hope you get it.

Well, it is my opinion, that vinyl can sound very pleasing. That combined with the whole experience (cool looking turntable, album cover and sleeve, setting the record on the platter, cuing up the tonearm, etc.) makes if certainly very different. There is no way to scientifically demonstrate that analog vinyl technology (even at it’s best) can be better than redbook digital...in fact, Sony and Phillips engineers and scientists built that technology specifically to be a better medium than analog.

Can LPs sound good to the ear? Sure they can. Can they sound better to YOU that digital? Sure they can. Does that make the LP a "better" playback medium? Not a chance. Just because YOU like it better (and I’m glad you do) doesn’t make a turntable a better sounding reproduction device. And that is before you even consider the convenience of digital.

ME? I sold all my LPs in 1991 and have never looked back. Would I get a turntable again? Maybe. But it certainly wouldn’t be because I was looking for a better quality listening experience. Probably because it looks cool...like the Garrard Zero-100 turntable I owned in the mid 70’s.

Not trying to change your mind at all. But I would recommend you state your preference as an opinion...which is exactly all it can be.

One last opinion. In comparing analog vs digital, cables, power cords, components, AC plugs and the like; in the world of high end equipment, the one that will sound the best to the listener is very often the one he wants to sound best.