How important is it for you to attain a holographic image?

Orpheus 10,

Very true,

Audio salons nowadays are nothing like they used to be. (I’m probably as old or older than you are.) when I recently went to look for speakers at the two that were in my area, the presentation was ridiculous.  I don’t know how they sell anything.

On your other point, I’m not sure that three dimensionality is what I’m ultimately  after.  I don’t doubt it’s a sign of a top rate system, but I don’t think it will make me appreciate the music any more.  As others have said, there are a lot of other factors which are important for musical gratification.  That’s why some refer to it as a “trick.”  It doesn’t necessarily help you get to the heart of the music.
Having said that, I certainly would like to have it just for fun.

Some of the responses remind me of the fox and the grapes, if any of you remember that fable; after not being able to reach the grapes, he decided they were green. It took me years to get a holographic sound stage, but when I got it, I knew I had arrived.

Not only does it require knowledge, but top notch components as well.

"There are many who pretend to despise and belittle that which is beyond their reach."


While a holographic sound stage is not beyond anyone's reach that has responded to this thread, it does require knowledge and effort.

I'm 65, been playing with this stuff back when we use to get the digest sized 'Audio Mart' in the mail every month. The fun we had with the anticipation of looking at those ads every month. 
To continue our discussion: I would simply like to state that the more I can control my rooms 'interference' with the original signal being launched from my speaker driver, the more stuff I hear in my music when I listen. Those interesting comments we make to ourselves like 'I never heard that before'. I was never really trying to get the holographic effect in my sound stage, quite honestly I noticed it just happened when the room quit interfering...

Romeo, many important discoveries have been made by accident; I'm happy that you are enjoying holography at last, now you can enjoy each artist independently.

I think that as many have mentioned here it just depends on what you're after. I care nothing for "3D" movies and would never try to simulate that at home. I'm sure that with the right money, equipment, expertise and room that I could do it but why would I when I've seen the very best and didn't care for it?

The point is, it isn't sour grapes to decide that you don't want or need some holographic effect that, as had been mentioned, requires knowledge, money, equipment and expertise. The truth is, that sentiment does not just come from those who have never experienced it. There are audio critics who have heard the best there is to hear and still don't put it at the top of their list of criteria that are important to them. Just Google it.

And I think that is an inherent problem in the audiophile world. There is always this notion that someone has heard something that if everyone else could hear it they would love it and if they haven't heard it then they are claiming sour grapes. I like the grapes I can reach. I can acknowledge that the grapes I can't reach might be delicious but why make myself unhappy when I can't (or don't need to) reach them anyway?