Hear my Cartridges....🎶

Good Golly Frogman......
I told you I didn't regret purchasing the Palladian.....😁
Perhaps I've been wrong all these years in thinking that the very best vintage MM cartridges of yesteryear can play on the same field as the best modern MCs......?

I'm determined though.....to use your ears (if you don't mind).....to tell me exactly which of my MM cartridges come closest to possessing the abilities of the Palladian in one-on-one 'Shoot-Outs'.

Before I do that though.....I'd like your opinion of how a vintage LOMC like the JMAS MIT-1 compares to the Palladian.

I just bought a wonderful piano recording of the 'Beethoven Appasionata' which was described by the Seller on Discogs as 'Very Good+' condition.
As you will hear...the disc has been 'churned' by some scalpel-like stylus and is going back to whence it came....🤬

AS PALLADIAN LOMC Cartridge
Mounted in Vintage SAEC WE-8000/ST ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor DD Turntable

JMAS MIT-1 LOMC Cartridge
Mounted in Vintage SAEC WE-8000/ST ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor DD Turntable

A couple of additional facts re this wonderful recording which, as halcro points out, should be a must-own for audiophiles. If one is to own only one recording of Classical music this one is definitely one to consider as the one. The pedigree of this recording is immaculate with associated names that should be familiar to all audiophiles who care about such matters:

The music is “Waltz Of The Flowers” from Tchaikovsky’ “Nutcracker” Ballet. The recording engineer was the legenday Kenneth Wilkinson who engineered so many of the great Decca/London recordings and it took place at London’s Kingsway Hall one of the best concert halls in the world. This one was licensed by RCA/Victor from Decca for its premium “Soria” series. In my experience any recording made by Wilkinson is worth owning if only for its sound.

Halcro, you flatter me and I confess to feeling a bit uncomfortable being the arbiter of which is best. This has been educational for me and I am glad to, time allowing, continue to offer my thoughts as my honest impressions and opinions only; while acknowledging that we all have at least somewhat different priorities and preferences when it comes to sound and that system context and the limitations of this methodology needs to be taken into account.

I don’t think that you “(have) been wrong all these years in thinking that the very best vintage MM cartridges of yesteryear can play on the same field as the best modern MCs”. No two cartridges will sound the same; often, not even two different samples of the same cartridge.  The fact that a vintage MM can compete at all with a $10,000 modern MC is kind of miraculous.  Detectable subtle differences favoring one cartridge or another don’t invalidate or diminish what they each do at least very well. I have to assume that since you don’t regret purchasing the $10,000 Palladian that you hear something in its sound that justifies the price disparity. I know that if didn’t hear any advantage that I would regret having spent the money. “Same playing field”? That one is tricky. If there were no differences in the sound between a cartridge like the Palladian and the Signet then the price discrepancy would not be justified. I have no doubt that there are many high priced MC’s that don’t sound, overall, as good as the Signet.

Thanks again.

Judging from the ’views’.........there is quiet a bit of interest in the vintage Victor MM cartridges (and the London Decca Reference 😎).
The X-1 range of Victors are almost ’unobtanium’ and replacement styli are generally unavailable or unsatisfactory.
The Z1 Victors however are plentiful on the used market and are ’dirt’ cheap.
Jico makes a range of replacement styli for them with the SAS or Neo-SAS being the best (if they ever come into production again).

The Z1/SAS is a real challenger for the X-1.....😃

AS PALLADIAN LOMC Cartridge
Mounted in Vintage SAEC WE-8000/ST ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 Turntable

VICTOR Z1/SAS Vintage MM Cartridge
Mounted in Vintage SAEC WE-8000/ST ToneArm on solid Bronze ArmPod surrounding Vintage Victor TT-101 Turntable

On my phone. Simon and Garfunkle sound more live with the Victor. The MC sounds more colorful initially ...until it just sounds colored and somewhat recessed. The MM is like opening the windows and hearing the live sound.

I hear something similar to you Noromance......
This could be interesting....🧐