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Auditioned Magico A3 - VERY DARK...

So today after waiting for months to try and listen to the Magico A3, I went to Scott Walker audio at Anaheim and listened to the Magico A3, connected to some VAC Tube amp, being fed from a Sony audio streamer, here are my impressions:

- They look fantastic, I wish they made them in silver too, but they are just great in brush black aluminum
- They're quite small and could fit everywhere
- Fit and finish is impecable
- The bass they generated was nothing but amazing for such a small cabinet, you could hear the drums, the down beats and incredible depth of bass at an amazing level
- Imaging was INSANE, you could literally place everyone and everything...
- Sound was VERY VERY DARK!!! This was a bit of a surprise, the top end lacked for my taste to a quite a degree
- I felt like the combo of the Tube amp and Magico lacked resolution, while bass and mid was great, the top end absolutely lacked resolution
- The sound was extremely laid back, again dark
- It does NEED POWER, like he had to crank the volume up, to get good sound out of this, so be aware of that

Overall, I "personally" did NOT like the sound, it lacked details and resolution at the top end, while it was great at the bottom end.  Now, the rep and I think this is mostly due to Tube amp, and connecting it to a solid state amp would bring back resolution, but we simply didn't have time to do that today.  I look forward to listen to these at another time with some decent solid-state amp, but as-is, I was NOT as impressed as I expected and wouldn't have purchased one and I strongly believe Tube and Magico A3 do NOT go well together! 

Anyone else with similar impressions?! Curious to know what others may think, or maybe there was something else in play?

Thoughts?
alexb76
seasdiamond
44 posts
 
If you think A3s are too dark, you probably are not as sensitive to high frequencies. They aren’t actually a dark speaker, as you can see from the anechoic ANSI/CEA 2034 measurements of the Magico A3, the listening window includes measurements from 15 and 30 degree of axis, and the treble only slightly decreases.  The sound power is slightly dark with the A3 yes but if you are listening way off axis you probably want a wide dispersion design with a waveguide like the Revel F228BE.

If you find the listening window response too dark then you could probably look at the Paradigm Persona 3F, they are quite the opposite and have a rising treble response and will probably have the highs you are looking for.  

https://i.imgur.com/hiGeBXK.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/slYBQbo.jpg

https://imgur.com/R3prT8T
sciencecop
180 posts
 
Nice, how did you get these measurements?

Both Magico and Ravel measurements are exemplary. The Persona is a trainwreck. I am surprise that Paradigm, which typically produce solid engineered products will build such a turd.
seasdiamond
44 posts
 
These are measurements taken at the anechoic chamber at the Harman research center that I believe floyd toole uses for his research/books.
haloman
2 posts
 
Late to this interesting thread as I only just read it.

I am the owner of the Audia Flight Strumento No 1 pre and No 4 power amp, both MK2 versions with the Magico S5MK1.

Firstly, I am not normally in the business of defending my system on a public forum, especially when you have the faith in letting others listen to it and then read their opinion on how bad it sounded.

My system does suffer from a over dampened room. It is not cold, small and dull as stated. Dark I would agree with though.

I also own a Supratek Cabernet and think they are fantastic for the money and do portray a larger sound. Is it better then the Audia Flight Strumento, not for my ears. The AF is more linear in the sound and is very refined with a much lower noise floor. The Supratek adds colour and in doing so, provides a rich midrange (which I really like) and a nice big spacious sound that I have often heard with valves.

I like both preamps for different reasons but overall much prefer the Audia Flight Strumento No1 MK2. Just matches the amplifier better in terms of gain and is a more accurate conduit to the music, plus it has all the modern features like remote, HT bypass, gain offsets and a really nice volume control.

As to Magico’s being dark and soulless, cant accept the later as it will portray whatever you feed it and can be rich and warm or lean depending on the gear. Dark I can understand in that it doesn’t have an overly prominent top end, very balanced I would say. I’ve had speakers with the extra sizzle up top and whilst they can bring out a bit more micro detail, I find them fatiguing in the long run.
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hocheye
39 posts
 
Yes, it may take 25 to 30k in gear to make a 10k speaker sing, The higher the resolution the more you will need to spend.I like dark sounding. Which my speakers are not and nowhere near the price of the magico's.
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