Turntable got absolutely crushed by CD

Thanks tomwh.

It’s funny that raulirugas shows his hand with his last sentence " enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS."


A sentiment that could only come from someone invested in the SOUND of a system. Most people could happily listen to music through systems with the type of distortions raulirugas woud likely decry, because they are focused on the music, without worrying about the teeniest distortions. Only someone really in to SOUND would have motivation to go on diatribes or evangelize about certain types of equipment, distortion profiles etc.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that ;-) But that’s the problem of being all judgemental and trying to separate people in to camps, and "other" them (when it’s all much more diverse and complex than these simplistic divisions). In a place like this anyone who claims "YOU are interested in sound, I am interested in music" is casting the first stone.


As I said, all of us here care about the sound of our systems. (How music sounds via our system). And plenty of us can still enjoy music in other situations as well. I often listen to music right out of my iphone speakers (it’s often the most convenient way depending on what I’m doing) and I get musical joy from that too.

Whatever floats your boat! Their is no Right or Wrong. Both formats can work well depending on the Recording and the Room/Gear Setup.

Personally i like a well setup Digital Player, the matter of convenience and the ability to browse through hundreds of files with out the snap crackle and pops.

Just dont have the time to become a dishwasher and clean my records all day long.

I think its good to keep both a Turntable and a DAC. Which ever is your priority on playback should deserve more of your funds. 

As to LP shelf space, approximately 80 LPs fit into one foot of shelf space.  Hence, 8000 LPs should fit into 100 lineal feet of shelf space.  I should know.  I currently have 25,000 LPs in my listening/storage room and 5,000 LPs in my storage shed to be sorted, heard or discarded (sold or given away).  Now, 78 rpm records take up much more space if in albums rather than sleeves.  Also, boxed sets can be bulkier, such as for operas.  

100 lineal feet of shelf space in a six shelf high storage shelving cabinet is only about 17 feet long, not 266 feet or even an integer by 6 shelves.   Just one wall for most collectors.

Again, in my very wide types of music in my collection, the recording and mastering are paramount to enjoying the sound quality of the performance.  First comes the performance, then the sound quality.  In my audio systems, I can greatly enjoy the sound of even early electric 78s from 1925, mono and stereo LP recordings and digital recordings.  Records, tapes and CDs can all sound great or mediocre, depending on the recording engineer and in the modern recording era, the mastering engineer.  I get the same thrill from a great sounding CD that I get from a great sounding LP and RR tape.

The more LPs or CDs one has the worse the sound. Ironic, ain’t it? It’s ironic because the most enthusiastic hard core audiophiles are destined to have bad sound. It is their fate. 😳

Dear @prof 1 :: Good that first of all you are a music lover.

"  spaciousness and richness that makes my heart melt... "

those kind of adjectives ( that are " audiophiles " adjectives. ) no one can find out in a live music event seated at near field  (1m-2m- ) at true live SPLs.

""" A sentiment that could only come from someone invested in the SOUND of a system ..."""

My dear @prof  all music lovers and sound lovers invested in the SOUND system.
I started that way and still I am enjoying the SOUND of my system. 

Things are that in the past I was truly a sound lover even that at the same time I was and I'm a music lover.
Trhough the last years I made my self a question:  where are " seated " the microphones that pick up the recording sessions ? and I found out that are at " near field " position.
So, I had several opportunities to listen big symphonic and band orchestras and instruments alone at true " near field " position and trhough those experiences I learned that what we listen at home systems is only an " illusion " that is far away of the sound of music at near field position.

From those nearfield experiences and my audiophile experiences in my and many many different home audio systems I changed my main audio room/system target that always was focus in quality levels of my system.

Today my main target is not that spaciousness/richness or other sound lovers adjectives but to stay truer to the recording that for me means leave all my room/system generated/developed distortions/ everykind and  everywhere at minimum.
That puts me " truer to the recording " and nearer to the near field live music. Yes I know I'm far away from here but that is my target.
When an audio  room/system is truer to the recording always is achiving the best quality level performance and always we will like what we are listening on it.

@tomwh , I'm not against tubes per se but because always goes against my target ( for many years I was using tube electronics till I learned. ), it's the worst link in any audio system. Tubes not only goes against MUSIC but against quality SOUND levels: no matters what.

I like the analog experience but digital is way way ahead my more distance that what we analog lovers like to think.


Btw, in the February Stereophile magazyne from 46 choosed R2D4 ONLY 13 are full analog. This is less than 29%, go figure ! !.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

@tomwh , do you know why almost all the big symphonic orchestras Directors and players of almost any kind of instruments ( even those in jazz quartes or rock music. ) that made that work for " all their lifes " are almost " deaf "?, because were exposed all those years to very high SPLs that's the way " sounds " the live MUSIC at near field position where they were seated or stand up.

I respect every instrument player opinions but I understand the why's of their opinions. Did you?