Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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Thank You for sharing your 3.5 story. Which loudspeaker replaced Thiel in your system? Happy Listening!


Magenpan 3.6Rs. It was a huge step up. Earlier, I said that they are at least four times better than the Thiels 3.5s, but I have to retract that statement because I never liked the Thiel midrange or treble. The midrange was always really shouty and the treble was extremely bright, harsh, and fatiguing. It didn’t matter how the speakers were placed. I tried everything from pointing straight ahead to various degrees of toe-in. I could never listen to the speakers without being on-edge. Due to all of this, I consider the Maggies infinitely better.

The Magnepans have a sweet, lush midrange and the highs are super soft, airy, extended, and life-like with absolutely no boxiness at all. The soundstage depth and width kills the 3.5s, and everything just sounds completely transparent and real. The Maggies are just a totally different animal. They also open up more amplifier choices because they are a relatively easy 4 ohm load unlike the Thiels.

The only way the Thiel might have been a little better was in the low frequencies. They could go lower than the Maggies, but I could never turn the volume up high enough to enjoy it without the woofers slapping and the midrange and tweeters pushing me out of the room, so it’s a moot point. I don’t know if more amplification would have helped with the woofer slapping, but they were already getting 400 watts @ 4 ohms, and at the time, I thought it was a much better idea to get different speakers than more amplification.

Making a speaker move paid off big time for me. I’ve had the Maggies for a few years now and they still amaze me. They have been completely trouble-free, but if I should happen to fry a ribbon tweeter or require any other kind of repair, it’s no problem.
Tom, I don't any info on the original Vifa 3.5, here is the link to the Madisound website / product page for the Scanspeak speaker.  I don't have the info for the original, maybe someone more literate in these things could chime in.
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-4-woofers/scanspeak-discovery-12w/8524g-4.5-fiberglass-cone-woofer/
Bluetone - please pardon me, I hadn't remembered that the original 3.5 was from Scanspeak. The most likely source of comparative data would be from Madisound. Can you get a datasheet on the original 3.5 midrange from them? If so, then we could compare the two and there are folks on this forum who might propose valid XO compensations.
As far as I know, Rob doesn't have the original driver specs, which were lost in the ownership transfer.

For my part, I am working with a user who is providing information for me to reconstruct a 3.5 crossover schematic, which will serve as a platform on which to build.
The more I listen to the CS2.4, the more beautiful they sound. I wish I could go back in time and hopefully I could make a difference.  I've designed my own speakers but they are no equal to Thiel.
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Much Thanks! for citing a portion of your Audio journey. It has been said many times that a Thiel speaker is an Apogee or Magnepan with Bass.A long time ago I wanted an Apogee Slant 8 model. It was heavily criticized for not having enough Bass output. The ribbon/stat midrange, tweeter panels sounded beautiful to my ears. I could not get into the sound of a Maggie nor Martin Logan though.  Happy Listening!