stanton str 8 80 ?

It’s funny to compare extremely expensive ViV Rigid Float tonearm (price tag is over $2k) to cheap as chips Stanton tonearm with price tag under $100. They are designed for two different audience, completely different.

ViV is for critical audiophiles with High-End turntables.

Stanton is for teenagers to play records at High School discoteque.

It might be OK for Spherical stylus tip which is the most forgiving to set up. Other companies like Vestax also designed turntables with straigh tonearm, but those turntables designed for skratchers as a tool to scratch records (special kind of performance). All they need is to avoid skipping of the conical needle across the record surface. If a manufacturer can make a turntable with more stable tonearm just for battle/scratch DJs then they could sell more turntables, because this is all they need, nobody cares about sound quality when it comes to a turntable designed for battle/scratch DJs. This is just a professional instrument, the main function is to keep the needle in the groove when people jump on the stage near the DJ while he’s scratchin’. I think this is the only reason why manufacturers like Stanton, Vestax designed turntables with straight tonearms (just for skratchers), they have a conventional pivoted tonearms for the rest of the DJs on their different models of cheap turntables.

But the rest of the DJs prefer Technics turntables with conventional pivoted tonearm. So manufacturers like Stanton, Vestax tried to make something different to say "this is better". Just marketing in competition with Technics for specific segment (battle/scratch djs) on the professional market.

Chakster  originally you were critical of the Stanton tonearm because of its short length and lack of headshell offset angle. I am saying that the tonearm fits into a class of underhung tone arms, and that such tonearms have a great deal of merit as compared to overhung tonearms. I did not say anything about quality of construction. Of course quality of construction will have an affect on performance . Also, I am not claiming that underhung is per se a better idea, just that it is worthy of respect. So what is your problem?

 I noticed you couldn’t avoid  touching on your other obsession, with spherical styli. I don’t think the shape of the stylus tip will have any bearing on the difference in performance between a given overhung and a given underhung tonearm. I realize that when the Stanton tonearm which you apparently dislike is combined with a spherical stylus which I also know you dislike, it really adds up. 

Yes, i dislike Stanton Group products, but i like the Stanton Magnetics Inc produsts. Two different companies from two different eras. Not everyone clearly understand it. 

I'm just trying to put the things together: cheap DJ turnable, Short tonearm with unknown geometry, Bonded Conical styli .... all these things are a part of one chain that Stanton Group responsible for, this stuff made not for Audiophiles, not even for Hi-Fi home aplication, but for a scratch deejays/teenagers who can't even afford Technics for some reason. 

The OP said: " no dj thanks "
Not sure what does it mean, but this is a cheap DJ turntable and cheap dj tonearm for scratching. Maybe it's better to avoid it if he is concerning about it ? In his previous post he has mentioned DJ Craze signature cartridge released by Stanton Group. He's on the wrong path.  

A Hi-Fi turntable and Hi-Fi cartridge could be a better choice in this situation. 

I can't remember any Hi-Fi turntable with underhung tonearm with no offset angle on the headshell. 

Just sayin' 






  

And I’m just saying please read my post with a more open mind. The tonearm is not “short”; it’s designed to underhang the spindle. All such tonearms can be shorter than any overhung tonearm and do function just fine. The geometry is not “unknown”. Underhung tonearms are a legitimate approach to tonearm design. Those were the very points I was trying to make. I certainly have no idea how the Stanton sounds, but if it sounds bad that’s because of execution, not its design.