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The Science of Cables

It seems to me that there is too little scientific, objective evidence for why cables sound the way they do. When I see discussions on cables, physical attributes are discussed; things like shielding, gauge, material, geometry, etc. and rarely are things like resistance, impedance, inductance, capacitance, etc. Why is this? Why aren’t cables discussed in terms of physical measurements very often?

Seems to me like that would increase the customer base. I know several “objectivist” that won’t accept any of your claims unless you have measurements and blind tests. If there were measurements that correlated to what you hear, I think more people would be interested in cables. 

I know cables are often system dependent but there are still many generalizations that can be made.
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nonoise
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When aftermarket cable makers measure, that's not good enough, huh? David Salz at WireWorld, Grant at Shunyata... No good, eh? When Mogami measures, that's good enough.

Hyprocrites. Imo, you're cheapskates. Your wallet rules your decisions. You don't compare because you can't stomach the idea of spending anything on it. Defense of Pro cables is to guard your money. You love them because their cheap, and you bought the marketing. LOTUS POSITION, EVERYONE! Do you guys sit with your legs crossed to get the most out of your Mogami cables?  ;)

Chintzy. That's closer to the truth.

"Fools", said I, "You do not know
Silence like a cancer grows
Hear my words that I might teach you
Take my arms that I might reach you"
But my words, like silent raindrops fell
And echoed in the wells of silence

All the best,
Nonoise
douglas_schroeder
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Canare is obviously more scientific than Mogami. All you who bought Mogami aren't very scientific. Canare has better charts, and even a DF chart. Much more scientific. Absolutely proves Canare sounds better. 

As we all know, a DF chart demonstrates how a cable sounds in an absolute fashion such that no consideration of the rest of the system is necessary.  

Mogami users were duped by the anti-scientific marketing. Better buy Canare to be assured of better sound. 


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geoffkait
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But isn’t Mogami cable used extensively by Pro audio?
rocknss
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But isn’t Mogami cable used extensively by Pro audio?
So, Pro audio is extensively using reasonably priced cables?
douglas_schroeder
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Pro audio cables are expensive and not a good value when you consider that skeptics should be using lamp cord. They should be using the interconnects from their 1980's stereo. That is, if they want to be consistent. 

After all, they think no one can pass ABX testing, so why would they spend the money on Pro cables? It's all about fear of looking bad, prestige, feeling like a Pro! Yeah! They think, "If the Big Boys in audio do this, then when I buy their products I'm a Big Boy home system builder, too!  I'm so much smarter than all those fools who spent more than me... 

After all, look at that graph/chart! PROVES I've got the best possible sound. I use Canare, so much more scientific than Mogami! Only a loser would use such a thinly supported, unscientific cable as that. Look! They're religious with their guy sitting in Lotus position! Who can trust a cable company like that?"   

(The delusion is practically incurable) 
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