Musicality is a mirage, a spectre, a chimera, an illusion. There is no standard for musicality. And there is no ideal for musicality, just like there’s no ideal for sound quality. Everything is relative. As Bob Dylan says at the end of all his songs, good luck. 🤗
What define "musicality" ? And what constitute "musicality" in audio ?
I think that "musicality" is the most important factor and attribute in living audio experience... The experience of "musicality" i think, cannot be reduced to subjective factors only, nor objective one...It is more easy to describe what it is not, than to describe what it is, perhaps like the experience of God in theology...But for sure if you get it, it seems the most important resultant factor of your audio grid system,you feel it and like it the most...After 7 years i feel it more than ever...The urge to upgrade recess in the background because when you feel "musicality" already at a certain level, you dont believe that it is possible to push that level really higher at an affordable cost... "Musicality" for me, in my words, correlate with realistic musical timbre and voice, fluidity,no harshness at all, no fatigue, and last but not least, listening music and forgetting the sound...
This is my personal my experience, i am curious to read others about that,about their "way" and "means" to live that experience...Thanks to all...
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Three points:  First: In the words of Jeff Foxworthy…”You know might have a musical system if….” This is where things get hung up…..so…  Second : What defines musicality…is a lot like defining great pizza or great wine…it is in the eye, mouth, ear of the beholder.  Third: And now a
possible real world definition….you turn on the music and you listen…and never
once did your brain try to cut in and tell you all of the things that might be
better…such as…”hmmm, I wonder if a Be tweeter would make that trumpet sound
better”. So, if you are able to just
listen and enjoy, then just maybe you have a musical system....and the rest of the descriptions and definitions don't matter. |
Geoff,you sound like an old men saying that this or that is an illusion...For sure "musicality" is a metaphor for some experience that is relative like an "horizon"... I am just curious to the history and methods,or purchase, of people here in an audio forum, about this experience that is an horizon toward with all we navigate...Sometimes someone shout "terra" "Terra" and the goal is relatively reached, with this person and his boat(audio grid)… I dont sail anymore now, I am on my island, I have shouted "terra", and I dont think to buy another boat... By the way, I read about your "peebles" on cable some years ago, that inspire my experiments with stones...And that work, and I dont mock you like stupid people who dont experiment and dont have open mind...That work really on my cable and that was a step toward this experience of "musicality"... Thanks for your inspiration... But now Geoff you said to me that,no, I am not in India but in America, my goal was an illusion in this travel...Perhaps I am wrong, I am not in India,but I love America,the New India, and for me this great feeling of discovery I called it metaphorically "musicality" or " the new India"... My illusion is my treasure old man...The "terra" was in sight in the end...You know it only if you buy a ship and go for the travel...Thanks Geoff, for some equipment you give to me along the sail... geoffkait14,271 posts 03-12-2019 4:05pmMusicality is a mirage, a spectre, a chimera, an illusion. There is no standard for musicality. And there is no ideal for musicality, just like there’s no ideal for sound quality. Everything is relative. As Bob Dylan says at the end of all his songs, good luck. 🤗 |
snapsc149 posts And yes I have "musicality" now, I listen to all my files with the same forgetting of the sound, particularly those files I was listen to no more because of their bad sound...Their sound was most of the times not so bad, it was my system that was not able to give me some basic rendrering of them... Now I listen without changing the files by boredom, or hate, or indifference most of the times... A good system makes what is good, very good, and what is bad better... For me this is "musicality" gain in my audio system... I am only interested by your history in audio, your way to gain that experience of "musicality" and the reason why you gain it finally, even if it is a relatively hard concept to define, a metaphor, that experience exist for each of us in different modes, or versions, or occasions... Thanks for you interest, understanding and participation... |
I agree with Geoff. Saying a system has 'musicality' is like saying a steak or cup of coffee has flavor. On the one hand it states the obvious and on the other hand it doesn't convey any useful information. And again, if everyone has their own definition of it then it can only really serve to confuse things. |
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