Tweak worth 100X It's price - Vibrapods


While I WAS not a big beleiver in the "tweaks" of audio to a any appreciable extent, I must rave about the performance recieved form these littel rubber pods. I purchase a few a couple months ago to place under my electronics and I was extremely happy with the result from the pods in combination with soem MDF particle board placed under the equipment pods combination. Rather than go into extreme use of adjectives regarding the improvement that was expereinced, just let me say that EVERYTHING opend up and became better. I thought my system sounded good but this little, cheap tweak was eye (ear?) opening.

I was extrememly happy with the imrovement to my electronics and then I thought - Why not the speakers also? I bought and installed pods for each speaker and
installed them. This was "as big" if not a bigger improvememnt to overall sound. I was experiencing some bass control problems around the real low end. These problems were now gone along with all the other distortion that I was experiencing and really not even knowing it or knowing it and blaming it on "room colorations".

You have just got to try these things. At $6.00 a pop you can't go wrong. Plus you can get a discount for quantity purchases usually. You will need a minimum of 4 per compopnent. $24.00 bucks that will make your system sound like you just put $2,400.00 into it.

I am a personal user and this is not an ad but I got my pods, along with a plethora of help from CJAudio/Video through this (AudiogoN) site. (www.cjsaudvid.com) Craig will take good care of you.

Feel free to email me (mackpat@apk.net) if you have any questions / comments.

I can also send you a picture of the stands i built for the speakers to incorporate the pods / and the Legacy supplied spikes if interested.

Relevant System Info:

Processor: Aragon Soundstage
Amp: Aragon 8008BB
Speakers: Legacy Classics.
CD: Denon 5 disc carousel.
Interconnects: HT ProSilway II (Pre - Amp)
Monster Coax Digital (II) (CD- Pre)
mackpat
Hi Bob: I have an inexpensive (discontinued) rack that has adjustable upturned brass spikes for all of the shelves (I could not see investing in the Neaunce shelving if it was not properly supported). It was designed as a bolt together rack, but I had it mig welded, by my mechanic, into a one piece frame. He did not charge me for this service, which took just a few minutes for sixteen spot welds (I did the setup and squared the rack off on a plate of glass - he was impressed) and in this form it works very well with the Neuance product. I have not experimented with upturned cones, etc. as supports, but assume that Ken @ Neuance would be able to supply info on various alternative support systems. The "cheap" isolation devices that I mentioned are not pumice stones, but are made of HD foam with an outer coating. We were putting a nail care kit for my wife's sister in Italy and I ran across them at a beauty supply warehouse just ouside of LA (my wife said that they are what the tech's use to polish nails in parlors). When I found out that they were four for a dollar I purchased a dollop of them to play around with (they come in different colors:-). I also used them to isolate the four tranformers contained inside a TDS Passive Audiophile from the chassis with good results. Before, the four transformers were "hot" glued to the single bottom plate of the chassis (no comment) and now it sounds much better, IMO.

Drubin: I hope that they have fixed the problem as they were described as "almost" dripping before. I ordered two sets in the past year and both were fine as far as I could see. I sold one set combined with some Mapleshade cones in the charity auctions and did not receive notice of any problems, so I assume that my observations are accurate. I have tried a few "earthquake" putties in the past that have stained (and was furious), so know where you are coming from (it took a lot of elbow grease and applied chemistry to reverse the damage). I don't know if Craig (can't remember the company name) the gentleman/dealer that I purchased the Pods from follows the forums, but am certain that he could give a history on the problem and its solution as he has rep'd the company for quite some time. One thing about the cheap "beauty" foam jobs is that I don't expect them to last a year (if that) as we live in LA, do not use A/C and leave the windows open all the time. Exposed foam and rubber does not do well with the air here as even windshield wipers require replacing once a year. I am not spending any money on the system(s) right now, but might try out the #1 Pods along with the E.A.R. footers once I get back into the swing of things. I had tried to use the #2 Pods with the "light" stuff before, which was not a good match (and which was against the user instruections). I think that the E.A.R.'s also come in different support weights. I sometime recommend that people start out by trying pieces of an old mouse pad to see if their setup is geared for soft footers, but should make it clear that I think that the Vibrapods sound a whole lot better (for a small investment). They smooth things out, fatten the bass and mid bass a bit (great for many digital sources) and they are $24 a set. Not exactly SOTA, but definately not a fool's tweak (they make a night and day difference on the player that I listen to when on the computer) and when I was first starting out with digital a few years ago they stopped me from wasting money upgrading the CD player (the Pods were all that it needed to bring it up a couple of notches and keep me happy).
Sean, Hdm, My Parsifal Encores were carefully voiced using proprietary large brass spikes for the woofer base, and then
a 1" granite slab between 8 thin corner discs of sorbothane as a sandwich between this woofer base and the upper monitor.
Makes me wonder if something like this could do the trick under your speaker: i.e., two marble or granite or maple shelves with this sorbo between?
Thanks for the experimental procedure, Hdm, but the last thing I want to do is upset the phenomenally tight and clean presentation the Encores deliver as tuned by Julian Pelchat at Verity.
Neuances do a great job isolating my CDP and pre...far better coherence than air bladders or sorbo or cones alone.
Tweaking the support for Neuance is not so critical.
Upturned cones on your shelf will do if you can't screw upturned spikes or screws through your shelf.
Screwing the four spike/screws into the shelf is satisfying at completion, however, as after getting three of the corners reasonably flat you carefully nudge the fourth crew up until the Neuance stabilizes (no jiggle) as you push on it with your hand. If it's then reasonably flat (for front ends) you're done.
pods work! just got'em and i'm pretty happy. deeper and tighter bass, better dynamics, slightly better resolution. nice for the price.
Ernie: I tap the Neuance shelf in the center (the component is not on it @ the time) and can tell by the tone whether the shelf is stable or not. The noise becomes very tight and short in duration when things are right. If I do not do this the overall sound is not very good in my setup as the LF's become subdued. My equipment is also on the light side (under 20 pounds) which may be why this special care is required. Maybe Ken has something to add to this, but I feel that proper support and setup is key in getting the "best" out of this shelving.
I don't currently own any nueance shelves (had some symposium shelves), but I got a good idea for cheap tweak from one of Ken's discussions. In stead of using upturned cones under shelves in audio rack (which can be expensive for 16 or more and may raise shelf too high) go to hardware plumbing section of home improvement store. There you will find nuts with round dome top, they have an italian name, just buy several large ones for @25 cents each and use in place of cones. Very stable and raise shelf height 1/2" or less.

Components can then be vibrapodded on these isolated shelves in rack.