Soundstaging and Imaging: The Delusion about The Illusion


Soundstaging in a recording—be it a live performance or studio event—and it’s reproduction in the home has been the topic of many a discussion both in the forums and in the audio press. Yet, is a recording’s soundstage and imaging of individual participants, whether musicians or vocalists, things that one can truly perceive or are they merely illusions that we all are imagining as some sort of delusion?

https://www.stereophile.com/content/clowns-left-me-jokers-right

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Just skimmed so far.

Auditory distance perception in humans: a review of cues, development, neuronal bases, and effects of sensory loss

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4744263/
Recordings are actually 360degrees. When you place the speakers in front of you that's what gives you the frontal stage. 2 speakers can easily give you the 360 sound, it's the room you're hearing keep in mind.

Right, so by recording reverberations and all you should still have all of the auditory cues outlined in the above study that I posted. But I think you would have to look at that paper and consider yourself blind. I would expect that having experienced a performance live and being familiar with the venue would help in deciphering the information available in a 2 channel recording.

No being into classical music, I don't really have a lot of relevant personal experience.  
BTW, I read the poorly written article.  It would appear the author is as confused as most of the posters here.  We are animals, who by design need to make sense of our experiences.  No matter what technology, source or venue supplies the stimulus, we instinctively try to figure out as much as we possibly can.  No reproduction is accurate, but if it supples more cues or information for us to determine the why, what, where and how about an event...acoustic or otherwise, then our brains are happier!  
BTW, I read the poorly written article.  It would appear the author is as confused as most of the posters here.  We are animals, who by design need to make sense of our experiences.  No matter what technology, source or venue supplies the stimulus, we instinctively try to figure out as much as we possibly can.  No reproduction is accurate, but if it supples more cues or information for us to determine the why, what, where and how about an event...acoustic or otherwise, then our brains are happier!

I agree that it is poorly written (don't have time to fully read it now), I did a quick look for a better source but haven't turned one up yet.

I do think that the article identifies the cues used, and I believe that sight can be a big part of placing distance.
Imaging is science. Our stereos are using our own physiology to trick us into believing that a sound is coming from a certain direction and distance by juggling phase and volume. This only occurs in a line perpendicular to the axis between the speakers exactly midway between the two. When in the right position the image locks in and magically appears....if the system is set up correctly which is the fun of this hobby, making our systems sound whatever we think "right" is. Getting a system to image correctly is not easy. First reflections have to be dampened and the speakers have to have exactly the same frequency response which they hardly ever do. If one speaker is louder than the other at 400 Hz the image will smear to that side. Then there is the talent of the recording engineer as others have mentioned. I love the drummer with 9 foot arms. We have all heard him, Tom on the far left, cymbal on the far right. Most popular live shows are recorded from the sound board. What you get is a studio recording with all the musicians playing at the same time and muted background applause. To gauge your systems ability you have to fall back on classical and some live jazz. 

I to believe Waiting for Columbus is the greatest live R+R record of all time done by, as Bonnie Raitt claims the greatest R+R band of all time.

I hope you all enjoy this hobby as much as I do. Music is the way.