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Marantz PM10 class D amp

Hi every one. I am in the market for a new amp.
Because of WAF, I have to go with integrated amps :( , but I just have to live with it.
My speakers are a pair of KEF ref1s with matching stands. My source is the SONY HAP-Z1ES Hi-Res HDD Audio Player.
My interconnects and speaker wires are mostly from AudioQuest.
I have narrow down to the following integrated amps (after a long search):
1. Lyngdorf tdai 3400
2. Yamaha AS3000
3. Marantz PM10 Class D
4. Mark Levinson integrated 383

I could found tons of review for every amps except the Marantz PM10 (very few reviews).
So, if any one has experience with the Marantz, please let me know. What it sound like, and what is its characteristic ??

Also, which amps will be the correct choice for my current set up ?

Thanks so much, it is wonderful to be a part of this audio community !! God bless you all !!
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celander
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I would get a nice pair of ATC active monitors, say SCM25A's for about $8kUSD from sweetwater sound. Get rid of the KEF's and forget getting another amp. Think about a preamp with the savings.
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celander
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But if you love those KEF speakers, then consider this $4kUSD GaN-based Technics integrated amp that includes a GaN FET driver stage:
https://www.technics.com/us/products/grand-class-g30/network-audio-amplifier-su-g30.html
A review is available at this link:
https://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/amplifier/integrated-amplifiers/technics-su-g30-network-audio-am...
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kalali
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"How can you make statements in regards to amplifier performance/musicality when you are not using the same speakers to compare them (and maybe not even in the same room)?"

You have a fair point in principle but its certainly better than making statements/comparisons just based on on-paper measurements. If you spend the time to go and listen to different component combinations instead of looking at the specs, then your ears will be able to tell the difference. For example, I have heard the GE Reference speakers paired with other amps/preamps like McIntosh and Rogue tube amps and they sounded nowhere as hyper detailed and dry. Some people may prefer that sound. 
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viethluu OP
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You have a fair point in principle but its certainly better than making statements/comparisons just based on on-paper measurements. If you spend the time to go and listen to different component combinations instead of looking at the specs, then your ears will be able to tell the difference. For example, I have heard the GE Reference speakers paired with other amps/preamps like McIntosh and Rogue tube amps and they sounded nowhere as hyper detailed and dry. Some people may prefer that sound.

I agree with you. In real life, there is no way we can have a fully controlled observation. The best we can do is a subjective comparison between different setup. For example, I cannot just walk into a dealer and demand that the dealer swap out multiple amps for a demo if each amps weight more than 100 lbs. There is no way he can swap and carry things around like that. 

Also, using KEF ref1s is my requirement. I am not going to exchange these speakers for anything else. 

I have tried active speakers and like none of them. So, they are way outside of the discussion. 
jnehma1
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Don't have direct experience to share regarding these amps but I would echo what @kalali said about specs. Take audiosciencereview with a grain of salt, at best. Measurements can be important but some people "listen" only with measurements. Stack measurements of a decent turntable up against a 1985 CD player and it will look like the CD player absolutely blows it away. Listening will reveal a different answer. Given near universal praise of the Lyngdorf, ASR wouldn't disqualify it in my book. To each his own...
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