Should I expect a discount from dealer for buying and installing complete system


I am getting ready to purchase a complete Home theater system from my dealer. It will probably end up at or over $17000. I am buying all the equipment from him and they are doing the install. He sent me the proposal today and I was surprised that there was no package deal. All the equipment which includes a receiver, a 9 speaker Atmos system. I may only need 7 if I can use my already installed rear ceiling speakers, cables, 65" TV 4K DVD player some other things I need. plus speaker stands. It's a complete redo of my home theater and will require extensive installation as my home theater room was done when we renovated and the room was frame. All the wiring is hidden behind the walls and all the equipment is in the closet. A lot of holes will be drilled and crawling under the house and going into the attic to do the work. Am I out of line to expect a solid discount on the equipment?
Thanks,
Bob
galleybob
  1. 1  Remove existing receiver, DVD player, VCR. Install new components and speakers.

  2. 2  Pull new HDMI and CAT6 cables to TV location

  3. 3  Pull new sub cable to under TV location

  4. 4  Pull new speaker cables to front Atmos position. Use existing Sonance for rear Atmos.

  5. 5  Remove Samsung TV and mount new 4K Sony TV

  6. 6  Install new 4K AppleTV for Theater, existing AppleTVs for zone music playback

  7. 7  Bypass inwall volume controls

  8. 8  Program Universal Remote Control for Zone 2 (master bedroom

  9. 9  Install surrounds and wireless system.

  10. 10  Mount existing Samsung in Son's room

  11. 11  Calibrate System

  12. 12  Train client on Sony Web interface for zone use.

Nothing there requires a licensed electrician. And just a guess neither of the two men will be electricians. If and when the dealer needs an electrician my guess would be he has an electrical contractor he uses. 
  
As a rule low voltage communication/data cable installers are paid about half of what an electrician is paid.   
Note: There are good and bad low voltage cable installers just like there are good and bad electricians.


Those are the prices that I am playing except for the Sony Blu-ray. He told me $$499.
I will ask him about a package deal
$250 an hour may be expensiveIf I hired one guy $125 an hour it would probably work out to the same amount. 
I can live with what they are charging for install. I have no doubt at all that it will be excellent work.  I think though that since I am buying so much equipment I should get a discount.
We first installed our home theater 11 year ago when we renovated our house. I regret not thinking about this business back then. We used an independent guy who our contractor recommended. At the time I knew zero about Home Theater. He definitely over charged, no doubt and did not set up receiver correctly, no sound calibration, installed 5 ceiling speakers when they all could have been in wall. The room was just frame. It all sounds good but I know it could have been a lot better for the money I spent
$250 an hour may be expensive. If I hired one guy $125 an hour it would probably work out to the same amount.

Installation is $250 an hour for a 2 man crew.

The dealer’s labor rate charge is $125 per man hour.
$3000 / $125 = 24 man hours. This is the total number of hours the dealer figured to do the job. Plus tax? (If the dealer is smart he added a little fudge factor to the labor hours he guesstimated to do the job.)

That’s not what the worker is being paid though. And there is a good chance there is lead man and a helper. (Lead man makes more money than the helper, usually.) The dealer has other costs than just the wages he pays the worker. FICA, workman’s comp insurance, unemployment insurance, Liability insurance, health benefits?, service van, insurance on the van, maintenance on the van, gas, tools, ect. On top of this he adds a percentage for overhead charges. He then takes that total times a percentage for profit markup.


I have no idea what the going rate is for an audio/video total install in Berkeley, CA. The dealer's price may be fair. Call around to other dealers in your area and ask what their hourly man hour rate is for the same comparable work.

If there are other audio/video dealers in your area I would compare prices. Check for independent customer reviews.

I would recommend you buy all the equipment and have it installed, setup, and calibrated, by the same dealer. Saves on finger pointing if there is a problem.



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