Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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At first glance, coils are 4-9s, best of form. Significant improvement could be made via cap and resistor upgrades from AXON, electrolytic and sandcasts.
Beetle might have an opinion.
The coils are certainly of higher quality construction than those on my FST-sourced 2.4 boards. And the yellow caps appear to be the high quality polystyrene 1 uF that Thiel commonly used. I see one bank of electrolytic caps. Those are probably shunts but I found shunt cap upgrades to be audible. ELs not only drift with age but they are generally lower SQ than film caps. The other caps are probably metalized film type but it’s hard to tell for sure. I see at least one cap with the Solen logo. The resistors appear to be the sandcast wirewounds.

I am confident that improved SQ can be had by upgrading the parts quality. If that was my CS6, I would replace all resistors with Mills MRA-12s. I would want to see a schematic before commenting about specific caps but I can say that better caps substantially contribute to improved transparency and resolution. Whether this would fully mitigate JA’s one criticism of the CS6 I have no idea, but it would certainly get you at least part way there. Andy2, curious to know what you see on that board. How did you surmise an all-pass filter? An all-pass filter suppresses no frequencies, right? Seems like such a "filter" would invariably allow the driver to excite its resonant modes.

One thing I learned form Tom - and that greatly surprised me - was that Thiel used the same level of parts quality on all models from the 1.X to 7.X. I confidently predict that better parts quality will improve SQ for all models. That said, DIYers should know that it’s not necessarily as simple as replacing OEM parts for higher quality ones with "identical" values. In particular, changes n DC resistance can modify the voicing.
Beetle - I am substituting caps in the PPs and 1.6s, which directly track your experience.
Andy2, curious to know what you see on that board. How did you surmise an all-pass filter? An all-pass filter suppresses no frequencies, right? Seems like such a "filter" would invariably allow the driver to excite its resonant modes.
It's partly based on an opinion of someone who is fairly experienced in xover design.  Also, based on my experience, it seems to me the only way to align the mid to the tweeter phase is to use an all-pass filter otherwise you have to invert the polarity (but I could be wrong).

I have tried the all-pass filter in my own xover design and it takes away the transient speed and ultimately reduce the transparency.
catalysis

Good to see you again. Great things are on the horizon for you 3.5 owners. Stay tuned.  Happy Listening!
andy2

Thank You for posting the CS6 XO pic for Tom's perusal. Hope you are well today and enjoying the music from your CS 2.4 loudspeakers.

Happy Listening!