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Dual vs single sub

Sorry Im sure this is all over the forums but I only found old articles. Situation. I have Two SVS 3000s that arent really doing it for me. Thinking of trading it in on the Big one and adding another in a year or so. Any thoughts on Big single vs 2 Medium?
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The Ford Motor Company did a study some years ago, to determine what exactly was needed for really good bass. What they found is that below something like 80 Hz the bass on virtually all recordings is mono.

I just got my Swarm-based distributed bass array up and running last night and so I can now say from factual actual experience there is nothing else like it. If you want really good bass you will use FOUR subs distributed around the room. Period.
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/audiokinesis-swarm-subwoofer-system/
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Hello millercarbon,

     Congratulations on getting your custom 4-sub distributed bass array system built and operational!  Are you planning on posting some kind of more extensive review of your dba results? How about a new thread devoted to how to build and deploy a custom dba? 
     Using an Audio Kinesis Debra 4-sub dba myself for the past 4 yrs, I already knew your results would be spectacular but I think others really benefit by knowing how incredibly well this concept actually performs in virtually any room and with any pair of main speakers.
     If you're anything like me, you're going to find it hard to resist posting about the dba concept as the ideal bass system on the many threads consistently started by members looking for better bass response in their rooms and systems. 
    However, I completely understand if you'd rather just enjoy your newly improved system for a few weeks, months, years or decades.  The truth is that neither of us will ever need to buy another sub or bass system again. 
     I'm just still amazed the dba concept isn't more widely known and used, especially on a high-end audio site like Audiogon.  The fact that it's so difficult to overstate how well these dba systems actually perform, whether a complete $2,800 complete dba bass kit like my AK Debra or a custom dba system such as yours, I hope you agree we have an obligation to spread the word to our A'gon brethren and beyond.

Enjoy,
Tim 
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millercarbon The Ford Motor Company did a study some years ago, to determine what exactly was needed for really good bass. What they found is that below something like 80 Hz the bass on virtually all recordings is mono.

>>>>>The Ford Motor Company? I want to believe them. But did they really listen to virtually all recordings? Maybe the study was back when everything was still mono. Besides, Be that as it may I’m not sure The Ford Motor Company has much audiophile street cred. 😁
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"The Ford Motor Company?"

Ford hired Dr. Earl Geddes as a consultant.  One of the questions he wanted to know the answer to was how common is it for CD's to have stereo bass content.  He asked everyone in the department to bring in their CD's.  After testing about a hundred CD's and not finding a single one with stereo content in the bass region, he stopped testing.  So no Ford did not test virtually all recordings, but the sample size was large enough for Earl to reliably conclude that stereo bass on CD's is quite rare. 

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noble100
Hello millercarbon,

    Congratulations on getting your custom 4-sub distributed bass array system built and operational! Are you planning on posting some kind of more extensive review of your dba results? How about a new thread devoted to how to build and deploy a custom dba?
    Using an Audio Kinesis Debra 4-sub dba myself for the past 4 yrs, I already knew your results would be spectacular but I think others really benefit by knowing how incredibly well this concept actually performs in virtually any room and with any pair of main speakers.
    If you're anything like me, you're going to find it hard to resist posting about the dba concept as the ideal bass system on the many threads consistently started by members looking for better bass response in their rooms and systems.
    However, I completely understand if you'd rather just enjoy your newly improved system for a few weeks, months, years or decades. The truth is that neither of us will ever need to buy another sub or bass system again.
    I'm just still amazed the dba concept isn't more widely known and used, especially on a high-end audio site like Audiogon. The fact that it's so difficult to overstate how well these dba systems actually perform, whether a complete $2,800 complete dba bass kit like my AK Debra or a custom dba system such as yours, I hope you agree we have an obligation to spread the word to our A'gon brethren and beyond.

Enjoy,
Tim


Thanks and yes, definitely will be writing it up, might even be posted today. Not sure but thinking best fit will be technical. Definitely agree this is a game-changer everyone needs to know about. No one should suffer the anguish of trying to perform the impossible, not to mention the sound of what people pass off as good simply because they don't know and never had a chance to hear. All it takes is a few minutes with a distributed bass array to know it leaves the conventional approach in the dust. I mean its so much better you truly cannot believe it until you try it, and then its just about the most obviously better thing you are likely ever to hear.
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