douglas_schroeder
But I could just as easily have left that out and focused entirely on speed, smoothness, and surprisingly, detail. Nobody thinks of bass in terms of detail. Listening to Pink Floyd Welcome to the Machine on other systems the machine makes this very low throbbing sound. With the DBA you can hear so much detail in this its crazy! The level doesn't just throb up and down, there's lots of times where it changes really fast, and you hear it and feel it, exactly like what it sounds like, a huge door opening and closing.
noble100 Tim, you put it beautifully.
I probably would have done this anyway but your experience was a big help. Duke's too, but guys like him are just an exceptionally rare breed whereas no offense but when it works for normal guys like you then it makes me sure it will work for a normal guy like me as well. I actually wouldn't recommend DIY for anyone who hasn't already done something like this. You don't really save all that much, certainly not in terms of time! lol! Mine still need veneer, which even then covered in Rosewood I doubt they will have quite the professional finish of Dukes Swarm or your Debra.
The details you're talking about hearing, oh yeah! There's the classic thing of the bass line where the volume changes as the notes go up and down the scale. Gone. The classic thing where the notes go lower and just sort of fade out. Flight of the Cosmic Hippo, the best part fades to almost nothing. Its just so low, it almost disappears. Not any more! Now you hear every note clear and strong and precise.
Which in a way you kind of expect. What I didn't expect was the tremolo. The kind of speed and precision it takes to hear not just the note, but really tiny fluctuations in pitch and volume (tremolo) within the note. And not only on obvious tracks like the Hippo. I've been surprised how many times this shows up with music I had no idea had any low bass content at all!
Just as a reminder, I still have not hardly even begun to dial these things in. Just plopped em down and started enjoying. Levels set almost certainly too high. Crossovers not dialed in, EQ still flat, no playing with phase. Long way from being dialed in. Even so, wow.
There is no way to get the same precision with an array of subsWell if you've heard more precise than this then color me jealous. Because the bass I'm getting is a whole lot more precise, clean, articulate, whatever you want to call it, than the Talon Roc I was using before. Even what I've heard from monster mega-buck Wilsons comes nowhere near this DBA. My post spent more time talking about the sense of space because that's the most interesting aspect.
But I could just as easily have left that out and focused entirely on speed, smoothness, and surprisingly, detail. Nobody thinks of bass in terms of detail. Listening to Pink Floyd Welcome to the Machine on other systems the machine makes this very low throbbing sound. With the DBA you can hear so much detail in this its crazy! The level doesn't just throb up and down, there's lots of times where it changes really fast, and you hear it and feel it, exactly like what it sounds like, a huge door opening and closing.
noble100 Tim, you put it beautifully.
I probably would have done this anyway but your experience was a big help. Duke's too, but guys like him are just an exceptionally rare breed whereas no offense but when it works for normal guys like you then it makes me sure it will work for a normal guy like me as well. I actually wouldn't recommend DIY for anyone who hasn't already done something like this. You don't really save all that much, certainly not in terms of time! lol! Mine still need veneer, which even then covered in Rosewood I doubt they will have quite the professional finish of Dukes Swarm or your Debra.
The details you're talking about hearing, oh yeah! There's the classic thing of the bass line where the volume changes as the notes go up and down the scale. Gone. The classic thing where the notes go lower and just sort of fade out. Flight of the Cosmic Hippo, the best part fades to almost nothing. Its just so low, it almost disappears. Not any more! Now you hear every note clear and strong and precise.
Which in a way you kind of expect. What I didn't expect was the tremolo. The kind of speed and precision it takes to hear not just the note, but really tiny fluctuations in pitch and volume (tremolo) within the note. And not only on obvious tracks like the Hippo. I've been surprised how many times this shows up with music I had no idea had any low bass content at all!
Just as a reminder, I still have not hardly even begun to dial these things in. Just plopped em down and started enjoying. Levels set almost certainly too high. Crossovers not dialed in, EQ still flat, no playing with phase. Long way from being dialed in. Even so, wow.