Phono Pre Impedance Matching- Herron VTPH -2A or Manley Chinook


The upgrade bug has bitten again, and I’m contemplating trading in my beloved MAGI Phonomenal for a new phono preamp.

At the top of the list (and the top of my budget) is the Herron VTPH-2A.  Of course, there’s nowhere in my area to audition, so I’m going on the universally glowing reviews here and elsewhere about this phono stage. My one reservation… The dreaded impedance matching issues between the Herron and my LFD NCSE MkII.

LFD doesn’t publish input impedance specs for this integrated, but an email to its designer yielded the following response: “Since the NCSE … uses a passive preamplifier section, the input impedance is around 16k ohms”

The Herron’s output impedance is 400ohms.  In speaking with Keith Herron, he agreed that though this wasn’t the worst match, there might be some compromise in overall dynamics with this combination. In all I’ve read, it seems that this would result in an attenuation of the deepest lows.  Frequencies that my Harbeth SHL5+ at 40Hz may not attain in the first place.

Second up would be the Manley Chinook, also glowingly reviewed and which lists its output impedance at 91 ohms.  Clearly a much better ratio and as a bonus, the Chinook is more readily available used and would be a slightly smaller bite in the wallet. But I hate to think that I'm missing out on a very good thing.

The persistent question: Which would be the greater compromise? 


krabbypantz
@Almarg-
As I recall Keith revised his website page on the VTPH-2a to reflect the statements he provided in that post at around the same time the post was made. Although the manual still suggests 50K or more as being optimal, that statement apparently having been carried over from manuals for earlier iterations of the phono stage, possibly going back to the VTPH-1.
Thank you for clarifying that! I'll admit that the earlier paragraph on the website about a 50K minimum spooked me a little bit.  As usual, it's the depth of knowledge found on this forum that adds so much enjoyment to this hobby.
I'm with almarg. When Keith says something like "there might be some compromise" keep in mind his incredibly conservative nature. Of course I'm so impressed with my 2A its hard not to recommend it to everyone. 

You mentioned the other being readily available used. There's probably a reason. You get a Herron, you hang onto it.
And for anyone needing only enough gain for a high output cartridge, Keith says most of the improvement in the VTPH-2 over the VTPH-1 was in the moving coil section of the -2. He sometimes has a traded-in VTPH-1mm available, which is how I got mine. Don't hold your breath waiting for one to become available!
krabbypantz
Impedance Matching- Herron VTPH

Hi, no impedance matching issues I talk to Herron to make sure.
One of my customers runs his Herron with my Lightspeed Attenuator passive, and loves it, here is his report on it.
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/lightspeed-attenuator-best-preamp-ever/post?postid=1623297#16...

Cheers George