My intention on posting was not to single out any users of this thread, owners, designers, etc. I am an ordinary listener with less experience than many people here, but I have traded in excess of $150,000 in gear, live near and travel to cities for pleasure and business and always seek opportunities to listen when I can. I pay attention but audio is a relatively unimportant passion for me if that makes sense.
I do realize that no piece of gear will ever please all audiophiles, and that certainly includes the 2170. To my ears it does not sound like tubes, doesn’t "bloom" and lacks in terms of transparency. I was influenced to give it a try based on some of the notes from the internet that I will share. I take many pages of notes on my phone each month (maybe 1-2 pages on audio) and I don’t know who said what/where, but I try to copy them accurately when I see them. Notes from my Iphone-
Lyngdorf TDAI 2170:
2170 85w 3400 200wpc.
User says audiophiles can buy a Lyngdorf with funds from their cable sales and stop thinking about hifi.
User says closest thing to wire with gain.
User says amp will replace $40,000 worth of tube gear.
Company site--With room perfect, speakers sound exactly as the manufacturer intended them to sound.
User says it makes obsolete over $70,000 worth of gear in his room.
Reviewer says the amp changed his life.
Owner of company was part owner of NAD and Snell and owns Dali. 20 years plus amps and room correction experience.
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Talk about hyperbolic and broad brush, oh my. The 2170 sounds similar to other 3- 4-5k integrateds I’ve had, actually not as good as many of them. I’ve watched audio gear for a while now and I don’t recall many claims of people selling $70k worth of gear for a $5k amp/dac. I bet many that bought based on that hype have sold them and moved on already.
I do realize that no piece of gear will ever please all audiophiles, and that certainly includes the 2170. To my ears it does not sound like tubes, doesn’t "bloom" and lacks in terms of transparency. I was influenced to give it a try based on some of the notes from the internet that I will share. I take many pages of notes on my phone each month (maybe 1-2 pages on audio) and I don’t know who said what/where, but I try to copy them accurately when I see them. Notes from my Iphone-
Lyngdorf TDAI 2170:
2170 85w 3400 200wpc.
User says audiophiles can buy a Lyngdorf with funds from their cable sales and stop thinking about hifi.
User says closest thing to wire with gain.
User says amp will replace $40,000 worth of tube gear.
Company site--With room perfect, speakers sound exactly as the manufacturer intended them to sound.
User says it makes obsolete over $70,000 worth of gear in his room.
Reviewer says the amp changed his life.
Owner of company was part owner of NAD and Snell and owns Dali. 20 years plus amps and room correction experience.
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Talk about hyperbolic and broad brush, oh my. The 2170 sounds similar to other 3- 4-5k integrateds I’ve had, actually not as good as many of them. I’ve watched audio gear for a while now and I don’t recall many claims of people selling $70k worth of gear for a $5k amp/dac. I bet many that bought based on that hype have sold them and moved on already.