The majority of folk are familiar with the sound they hear from their room and each room holds a unique signature- boomy bass, no bass, too much bass, bright treble, no focus etc. One or more frequencies seem to dominate the frequency spectrum, negating or smearing the rest of them. The sound equaliser helps to balance the sound spectrum by giving each frequency an equal chance to re- produce. It is also a partner friendly device, as putting up acoustic treatment is a no no in majority of living rooms. Audiophiles might disagree and say the purist sound path has to be met, this might be true if you have a ‘perfect room’. But in real life no one does! So losing a bit over gaining mega truck loads is something you can’t overlook. I too was sceptical and dismissed the idea of having anything ‘in- between’, until I discovered true equalisation in the frequency and time domain. They aren’t your bog-standard tone controls or a band equalisers of yester year. This stuff does some mathematics like fourier and laplace transforms behind the scenes. To work out the best response at your seated area.
I’m the kind of guy who will give it to you straight- if a product doesn’t add anything or is rubbish then I will say so. No beating around the bush!
I tried experimenting with connecting my Naim NDX2 directly through the Diablo, but I’ve found it dull and lacking, the stereo imagery, focus, instrument nuance, vocal clarity all go back into the 803D3 speakers. When I connect the processor everything comes to life, each bit of micro detail is heard, in the bass notes you can hear different notes and hear the emotion of the artist plucking them. The bass notes start and stop as they should do, no lingering, ringing, no boom. The artist is in your living room in front of you. You hear things that you have never heard before. It’s like it’s a new system! The difference is night and day. Let me say that again- the difference is night and day! You might say, hold on but I’m already hearing those things. You are hearing a difference from what you had previous but nothing like what you hear when the sound is correctly balanced. Having a balanced sound is what the artist wants you to hear- the way it was recorded is the way it should be re-produced in your living room. Have I got this wrong?
Some people don’t like this as they question about their bass disappearing into the ether. They lose the one tone bass, the thump they use to hear. That’s because that is the type of unbalanced bass they have heard all their life. They are none the wiser, when they are introduced to the REAL sound- the way it’s suppose to be they don’t like it. The bass isn’t lost it’s just that you are hearing the finer grain of bass detail across the bass spectrum. The clarity, the quality, the impact, the impulse, the transients, the notes…
The 803D3 is a step up from the previous version, all depending on how they are set up and what they are fed. They are very critical on source components. If you are looking for a Mike Tyson punch in your chest, this is not what they are about. In terms of clarify / midrange / micro detail they are excellent. If you have room then go for the 800D3, but for my room size I couldn’t fit either 802D3 or the 800D3. Again, these don’t give you the punch in your chest bass.
That’s right you still hear all the bass notes at even lower volume under 10. I’ve taken it to 30 and no higher. Listening at this level is loud, not the kind of loud, that you say turn the damn thing off it’s hurting my ears. Or you start hearing distortion, sound just easily flows out, it’s not fatiguing. You don’t realise that you got it so high until you turn it off. Then you get that ringing in your ears as if you’ve been to a club! This amp is a different beast, you need to hear it to appreciate it. Unlike other amps when you turn the volume up everything gets boosted. With this amp you turn the volume up and you think have I turned it up. Then a loud passage comes in it catches you out, there is no holding back on the amps end. The amp will reproduce it the way it was recorded, if the recording has dynamics then it will give it to you- good and bad.
Maybe the Diablo 120 has been ‘tuned’ differently as it lacks power of the 300, maybe Gryphon think folk will be listening at lower volumes? They have orientated it that way, But I think even if the Diablo 300 had 1000w per channel into 8 ohms, 2000w into 4 ohm, 4000w in 2 ohms. I can live with that too. (:- Having too much power is never enough! Diablo 120 & Diablo 300 aren't the same, meaning 120 isn't a cut down version of the 300.
There is two separate display types used for the display. The main display is fluorescent, it doesn’t tell you the info put down in my previous post in a manual. I did a Google search and that is the estimated time these things last. So I’ve set mine up to go off, after a few seconds. So it lights up when you adjust the volume etc, when it goes off the blue led goes on to indicate. The rest of the display stays at the same brightness. It would be nice if you can adjust the brightness intensity when it comes back on I think it stays at 100%. Also if you can turn off all the lights bar the Gryphon logo in red. The other lights might be filament or led, the blue one is certainly led.
Do you know if there is any documented text to say the amp runs in Class A over so many watts? It certainly runs hot, heats my living room up!
One small niggle I have is why on earth did they make the front fascia out of plastic, for such an expensive amp. Over time it will end up getting scratched. I was looking for a custom screen protector (maybe overkill!).
It’s good we can discuss our experiences here, keep posting!
I’m the kind of guy who will give it to you straight- if a product doesn’t add anything or is rubbish then I will say so. No beating around the bush!
I tried experimenting with connecting my Naim NDX2 directly through the Diablo, but I’ve found it dull and lacking, the stereo imagery, focus, instrument nuance, vocal clarity all go back into the 803D3 speakers. When I connect the processor everything comes to life, each bit of micro detail is heard, in the bass notes you can hear different notes and hear the emotion of the artist plucking them. The bass notes start and stop as they should do, no lingering, ringing, no boom. The artist is in your living room in front of you. You hear things that you have never heard before. It’s like it’s a new system! The difference is night and day. Let me say that again- the difference is night and day! You might say, hold on but I’m already hearing those things. You are hearing a difference from what you had previous but nothing like what you hear when the sound is correctly balanced. Having a balanced sound is what the artist wants you to hear- the way it was recorded is the way it should be re-produced in your living room. Have I got this wrong?
Some people don’t like this as they question about their bass disappearing into the ether. They lose the one tone bass, the thump they use to hear. That’s because that is the type of unbalanced bass they have heard all their life. They are none the wiser, when they are introduced to the REAL sound- the way it’s suppose to be they don’t like it. The bass isn’t lost it’s just that you are hearing the finer grain of bass detail across the bass spectrum. The clarity, the quality, the impact, the impulse, the transients, the notes…
The 803D3 is a step up from the previous version, all depending on how they are set up and what they are fed. They are very critical on source components. If you are looking for a Mike Tyson punch in your chest, this is not what they are about. In terms of clarify / midrange / micro detail they are excellent. If you have room then go for the 800D3, but for my room size I couldn’t fit either 802D3 or the 800D3. Again, these don’t give you the punch in your chest bass.
That’s right you still hear all the bass notes at even lower volume under 10. I’ve taken it to 30 and no higher. Listening at this level is loud, not the kind of loud, that you say turn the damn thing off it’s hurting my ears. Or you start hearing distortion, sound just easily flows out, it’s not fatiguing. You don’t realise that you got it so high until you turn it off. Then you get that ringing in your ears as if you’ve been to a club! This amp is a different beast, you need to hear it to appreciate it. Unlike other amps when you turn the volume up everything gets boosted. With this amp you turn the volume up and you think have I turned it up. Then a loud passage comes in it catches you out, there is no holding back on the amps end. The amp will reproduce it the way it was recorded, if the recording has dynamics then it will give it to you- good and bad.
Maybe the Diablo 120 has been ‘tuned’ differently as it lacks power of the 300, maybe Gryphon think folk will be listening at lower volumes? They have orientated it that way, But I think even if the Diablo 300 had 1000w per channel into 8 ohms, 2000w into 4 ohm, 4000w in 2 ohms. I can live with that too. (:- Having too much power is never enough! Diablo 120 & Diablo 300 aren't the same, meaning 120 isn't a cut down version of the 300.
There is two separate display types used for the display. The main display is fluorescent, it doesn’t tell you the info put down in my previous post in a manual. I did a Google search and that is the estimated time these things last. So I’ve set mine up to go off, after a few seconds. So it lights up when you adjust the volume etc, when it goes off the blue led goes on to indicate. The rest of the display stays at the same brightness. It would be nice if you can adjust the brightness intensity when it comes back on I think it stays at 100%. Also if you can turn off all the lights bar the Gryphon logo in red. The other lights might be filament or led, the blue one is certainly led.
Do you know if there is any documented text to say the amp runs in Class A over so many watts? It certainly runs hot, heats my living room up!
One small niggle I have is why on earth did they make the front fascia out of plastic, for such an expensive amp. Over time it will end up getting scratched. I was looking for a custom screen protector (maybe overkill!).
It’s good we can discuss our experiences here, keep posting!