Speakers under $50k that rival $200k+ speakers?


Curious if there are any used or new (less likely) speakers out there that rival flagship speakers like Focal Grande Utopia, Rockport Lyra, Marten Coltrane Supreme 2, Magico M6, Raidho TD 4.2 or D4.8 etc?

I'll throw out a contender. If you look on ebay and the used market you can sometimes find a Von Schwekert VR 10 for around $18k CAD and from what I heard it can rival many TOTL speakers like the Grande Utopia. Do you guys have any thoughts?
smodtactical
I believe in the law of diminishing returns.

I believe the law law may kick in as low as $3,500.

I believe it kicks in for sure at $5,000.

I believe that it seriously kicks in at $10,000

Someone said that everyone’s ears are wired differently. I agree. Over $20,000, it’s personal preference for sure.

The same folks who wanna spend $600,000 on a pair of speakers wanna spend $500 per foot on speaker cable (I use chicken wire 🙄).

Then, surely you’ve heard the joke that the size of a guy’s speakers are inversely proportional to the size of his dick?

My speakers are pretty damn big, 😳, ... but my wife hasn’t been complaining.
That material has all been used before. You should get a new writer.
If you want that "big buck sound" for under 50k, I believe you would be wise to look into the Grandinote Mach 9's.  They list for around 42k, and they are a wonder.  I own their big brother, the Mach 36's, which retail for around 150k, and although the 9's aren't quite up to the 36's in terms of sheer magnitude, they have very similar characteristics, especially when it comes to the sound-stage and neutral coloration.  I know these are not well known in the states (they're manufactured in Italy), but if anyone here is in the NY area and would like to hear the 36's, I would welcome you to come over to my house for a listen, perhaps embellished with a fine dram of single malt.

By the way, the Mach 4's, which run about 25k, are also an amazing speaker, especially in a smaller room.
geoffkait, in this forum you are correct.

I’ve recently moved, and new friends and new guests who are not audio geeks come over and the first thing they see are the damn speakers and they go wtf because they are all sound surfing on buds these days... so they have not heard the wisecrack and it has become a reflex of late. My bad.
Agree with the Magnepan 30.7. But as others say, it depends on what your priorities are. The Maggies excel on acoustical music, they have a spooky realism to them. Even my old Tympani IVa's can be jaw-droppingly realistic (talk about bargains -- maybe $3000 used), and the 30.7's better them in every respect.